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Re:What Happens After Prisoners Learn to Code? by DaiPlusPlus on Saturday December 14, 2019 @09:08AM (#21789547)
> The reality is that people can value something different than you (less government intervention, less restrictions on speech, lower taxes)

Why do you assume we don't value those things? Isn't that _you_ being condescending now?

Re:What Happens After Prisoners Learn to Code? by abnry on Saturday December 14, 2019 @09:16AM (#21789593)
Why do you use the word "we"? I wasn't directing my comment to you.

An assumption isn't necessarily condescending. I assumed I was talking to someone on the left side of politics and was giving examples for the sake of an argument. If those examples do not in fact work then I can just as well pick other ones.

Re:What Happens After Prisoners Learn to Code? by traderjane on Saturday December 14, 2019 @09:35AM (#21789670)
> You are missing the point. If I say, "I support X" and you say, "I support not X," that's just a disagreement.

> Why do you use the word "we"? I wasn't directing my comment to you.

Indeed this is a communication mystery.

Re:What Happens After Prisoners Learn to Code? by vageli on Saturday December 14, 2019 @09:53AM (#21789748)
> > The reality is that people can value something different than you (less government intervention, less restrictions on speech, lower taxes)

> Why do you assume we don't value those things? Isn't that _you_ being condescending now?

If you assume people do share the values, or if you assume they do not, you are still assuming to know their values. Better to just ask the person and start the conversation from there rather than shut down debate with something along the lines of "You'd agree with me if you weren't misled by X".