Re:What Happens After Prisoners Learn to Code?
by zozbot234 on Saturday December 14, 2019 @08:50AM
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I usually see the argument "you're voting against your own interests" from the free-market, libertarianish side. You may be right that it's often viewed as condescending, but I'm not sure what the alternative would be since the proper pursuit of 'enlightened self-interest' is the whole point of that sort of politics.
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Re:What Happens After Prisoners Learn to Code?
by seibelj on Saturday December 14, 2019 @09:02AM
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The condescending part is that the left views poor people who vote for non-democrats as voting against their self-interest. No one knows what someone’s self-interest is except the person who is voting. Considering the US has only 2 major options on elections, there is a panoply of reasons why someone votes and merely saying “poor people who vote republican are brainwashed idiots” is what grates on people who believe everyone has their own agency regardless of their economic class.
Re:What Happens After Prisoners Learn to Code?
by DaiPlusPlus on Saturday December 14, 2019 @09:26AM
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> The condescending part is that the left views poor people who vote for non-democrats as voting against their self-interest.
Is it condescending if it's true, though?
Re:What Happens After Prisoners Learn to Code?
by sokoloff on Saturday December 14, 2019 @10:02AM
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Condescension and correctness are largely orthogonal axes.
Re:What Happens After Prisoners Learn to Code?
by wolco on Saturday December 14, 2019 @09:52AM
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You have it wrong. In many cases poor people are better served by voting for lower taxes, cheaper products, maintaining the status quo so there factory job can stay a little longer. It might mean dropping union protections because it makes there state more investable. In the auto sector jobs shifted to southern states without unions.
Re:What Happens After Prisoners Learn to Code?
by seibelj on Saturday December 14, 2019 @09:58AM
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I didn’t say anything about the issues. What could I be wrong about? All I said is, if you believe anyone from X voting for the other guy means that they are brainwashed, you are delusional. People vote how they want for innumerable reasons. All poor people, gay people, black people, etc. cannot be easily bucketed into voting units. Everyone has their own agency as individuals.
Re:What Happens After Prisoners Learn to Code?
by krapp on Saturday December 14, 2019 @09:29AM
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>the condescending part is that the left views poor people who vote for non-democrats as voting against their self-interest.
And the right views poor people who vote for Democrats as lazy grifters just looking for a handout, naive fools in the pocket of globalist elites, or else not "real Americans" like themselves.
It isn't only the left or Democrats which have a problem in this regard. The right/Republican end of the spectrum is fueled by its naked contempt for everyone outside their camp.
Re:What Happens After Prisoners Learn to Code?
by sokoloff on Saturday December 14, 2019 @09:41AM
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Naked contempt from one side. Pitying condescension from the other.
It's nice that we have a choice.