Re:Ask HN: My company wants my side project. What can I do?
by fierarul on Saturday December 14, 2019 @08:06AM
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> That definitely makes it an unsanctioned overtime project rather than something separate like a side project.
Is it overtime if you were never paid for it? How does unpaid work have to be 'sanctioned'?
Re:Ask HN: My company wants my side project. What can I do?
by detaro on Saturday December 14, 2019 @03:57PM
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I don't think it really applies to the side-project rights case, but there's reasons to control overtime and require permission for it: Trying to ensure lower management/peer/customer pressure don't cause people to overwork themselves, if people work more on additional projects they're not asked to do they might be less effective at the main work, in some places (probably not the US) it's a legal risk. My employer in Germany has such rules, although I'm not sure how strictly they're enforced.
Re:Ask HN: My company wants my side project. What can I do?
by koala_man on Saturday December 14, 2019 @11:47AM
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>Is it overtime if you were never paid for it?
Sadly, for programmers in the US, overtime is essentially always unpaid. When you e.g. hear about game developers doing 80hr/week crunch time, they're not getting paid extra for that.
Re:Ask HN: My company wants my side project. What can I do?
by fierarul on Saturday December 14, 2019 @03:42PM
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I get that, but 'unsanctioned overtime' sounds as if the company was robbed of something. Since they never paid for that 'overtime', how did it need to be sanctioned?
Going that route, maybe the company could pay for the work done on the project.
In hindsight, I also made some mistakes in how I went about evangelizing it.
It sounds like the author implied the company actually had something to do with whatever it is. That definitely makes it an unsanctioned overtime project rather than something separate like a side project.