Animal painting found in cave is 44k years old

Re:Animal painting found in cave is 44k years old by chrisco255 on Thursday December 12, 2019 @03:42PM (#21776213)

We wouldn't even have history without the neolithic. We wouldn't have written language. We'd be forever in a holding pattern of hunterer-gatherer society. Now, while that may be cool in some aspects, a hunter-gatherer society is never going to land on the moon, explore the stars, destroy an asteroid with a collision course for earth, cure a disease that would wipe out the whole population, build flying machines and sailing machines to connect the whole globe, etc. Our chances of survival as a species have improved as a result of technology. And war has traditionally been one of the most motivating factors for the development of technology, for better or for worse.

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Re:Animal painting found in cave is 44k years old by rurp on Thursday December 12, 2019 @11:05PM (#21779071)

>Our chances of survival as a species have improved as a result of technology.

I was totally with you up until this point. Modern humans have achieved amazing things, but have also invented whole new catagories of potential self inflicted catastrophies.

We are one nuclear war or environmental collapse away from being a complete failure of a culture, and taking thousands of other species down with us. The biggest modern advances have only just happened, in historical terms, and we've already had some very close calls, with more on the way.

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Re:Animal painting found in cave is 44k years old by chrisco255 on Friday December 13, 2019 @10:49AM (#21782570)

Weirdly, the nuclear era has made a third world war less likely. Mutually assured destruction kept the Cold War to mostly proxy nations instead of an all out worldwide theater like occurred over the prior 300 years (going back to the Spanish vs. British vs. French in the colonial age).

Meanwhile, I suppose a super volcano or a shift to ice age temps would be disastrous for the environment and crop yields, but technology would be our only recourse for dealing with it and adapting to it.

I'll admit, there's trade-offs to modern tech. It's definitely a double-edged sword, and I'm not sure our physiological systems are well-tuned for modern society (i.e. hunting and gathering guaranteed an active lifestyle). But overall, I think it's a positive.

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Re:Animal painting found in cave is 44k years old by yesenadam on Friday December 13, 2019 @03:49PM (#21785310)

> Mutually assured destruction kept the Cold War to mostly proxy nations instead of an all out worldwide theater

I get the feeling you aren't familiar with Vasily Arkhipov or Stanislav Petrov. Sorry, you will probably feel depressed/sick. I do when I consider these events, and a weird sense of unreality and insanity.

It wasn't government policy that prevented nuclear war, but people disobeying orders.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasily_Arkhipov_(vice_admiral)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanislav_Petrov

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Re:Animal painting found in cave is 44k years old by refurb on Friday December 13, 2019 @12:18AM (#21779304)

I’ll take the risk of nuclear war now versus the risk back then of dying from a bacterial infection because I scratched my foot.

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