Facebook, Google Drop Out of Top ‘Best Places to Work’ List

Re:Facebook, Google Drop Out of Top ‘Best Places to Work’ List by m0zg on Wednesday December 11, 2019 @05:58PM (#21767691)

Doesn't work like that if you have a family to support and a mortgage. In fact, it doesn't work like that at all. The probability that you will find interesting work as an engineer at least is directly proportional to how much the employer (or client) is willing to pay. If you're paid half a million dollars a year, chances are you won't be doing something mind numbing that a $100K/yr fresh grad can do. You will be doing gnarly, interesting shit where there's disproportionate ROI. In fact in my current consulting gig, some of my clients insist that I offload bullshit work to their FTEs. I like that. I wish I could do that when I was an FTE. :-)

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Re:Facebook, Google Drop Out of Top ‘Best Places to Work’ List by JenrHywy on Wednesday December 11, 2019 @06:14PM (#21767810)

ROI is only half of the equation, though. It will tell you the maximum the employer is willing to pay.

But the wage is determined by the least amount a suitable employee is willing to accept, which is affected by how interesting the work is and how "good" the environment is.

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Re:Facebook, Google Drop Out of Top ‘Best Places to Work’ List by m0zg on Wednesday December 11, 2019 @06:29PM (#21767901)

Do you really think Google is "compensating" for its shortcomings as a workplace? I mean, if you do that's great, less competition drives up the wages, but from personal experience that's just not true. They're a great employer (both technically and in terms of quality of employee experience) who also happens to pay really well. That's how they're able to attract the kinds of people they're able to attract: by not sucking and paying well. In fact, if they did suck as an employer, they'd not be able to compensate for it with pay - that only works on poor people. When your brokerage account begins to look like a phone number, you're too far up on the Maslow's pyramid to tolerate such shenanigans.

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Re:Facebook, Google Drop Out of Top ‘Best Places to Work’ List by dsd on Wednesday December 11, 2019 @06:28PM (#21767899)

Where/how do you find employers who pay for hairy problem solving and not just another piece of CRUD?

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Re:Facebook, Google Drop Out of Top ‘Best Places to Work’ List by m0zg on Wednesday December 11, 2019 @06:31PM (#21767913)

https://careers.google.com/jobs/ ?

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