That doesn’t make sense to me. Engineers have managed to cut down on useless meetings and focus on improving reliability of systems, and that is a bad thing? Come on. Engineering was always viewed as a cost center in most industries and nothing has changed that view. The only thing that has changed is that engineers have migrated to orgs where they are treated well, where they innovate and create the very No Code systems that you tout. Those systems weren’t created and are not kept operational by non engineers.