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Re:Things that are illegal to build in most American cities now by daveslash on Tuesday December 10, 2019 @02:30PM (#21755973)
Agreed. If you have enough money to own a house with a garage and electric car, you can probably afford to have an electrician run an outlet to your garage if it doesn't already have one. Similarly, I doubt anyone who owns a house and gasoline car is going car shopping and saying "Oh, honey, this car is electric, and we don't have an outlet in the garage... we can't get this..."
Re:Things that are illegal to build in most American cities now by cr0sh on Tuesday December 10, 2019 @03:29PM (#21756519)
You have the qualifier of "probably" - but money may not be the only thing holding someone back.

For instance, I want a 220 outlet in my garage so I can have a proper welder out there. I don't have an electric car (and even if someday I do own one, it won't fit in my current garage, due to various reasons - chief one being it's a conversion from a carport).

That all said - I am not sure I can get such an outlet. Money isn't the issue - but it could become the issue.

Because I would need an additional 220 circuit added to my existing circuits in my breaker box. But the panel is full. So I would probably need to either get a larger panel, or add on an auxiliary panel (likely the latter). But that also depends on my service from the main transformer.

I might not be able to get an extra circuit if my service isn't large enough to support such an extra circuit. The only way to change that would be to have a larger capacity transformer installed. That transformer is shared between my house and the neighbor's house. I don't even want to contemplate what it would cost to change that out (thinking somewhere in the 5 figure range - but where?).

So money isn't an issue - until you have an electrician come out and tell you that to run an additional line is going to require major changes to your current electrical service.

Re:Things that are illegal to build in most American cities now by jsight on Tuesday December 10, 2019 @04:09PM (#21756875)
This was my thought on seeing the regulation as well. Although it may have been better to mandate panels leaving room for expansion instead of mandating a 240v outlet.
Re:Things that are illegal to build in most American cities now by jjeaff on Tuesday December 10, 2019 @05:21PM (#21757520)
Fitting in additional breakers is not usually a problem and adding an expansion panel isn't either.

If the supply from the transformer isn't enough, then I don't see a regulation requiring a 220v in your garage affecting that. Whether it's new or an an upgrade later, you are going to have the same problem.

Re:Things that are illegal to build in most American cities now by dsfyu404ed on Tuesday December 10, 2019 @05:03PM (#21757349)
They make 120v breakers that have two switches on them and two hot terminals in order to save space in the panel. That sounds like exactly what you need.
Re:Things that are illegal to build in most American cities now by alamortsubite on Tuesday December 10, 2019 @05:40PM (#21757662)
Have you checked with your electric company? Depending on where you live, it's likely they will upgrade the transformer at no cost to you.
Re:Things that are illegal to build in most American cities now by cookieswumchorr on Wednesday December 11, 2019 @03:24AM (#21760590)
what does the average guy do in this situation? exactly, get an extender, plug it into a random outlet in the house, attach it with duct tape, job done. Regulations have made our lives safer once again
Re:Things that are illegal to build in most American cities now by imtringued on Tuesday December 10, 2019 @08:31PM (#21758710)
> "Oh, honey, this car is electric, and we don't have an outlet in the garage... we can't get this..."

I have that problem. It will probably cost me $3000-$4000 to install the wall charger and then in 10 years they will probably rip it out and replace it with a whole set of wall chargers with central load balancing for a much lower cost because the cost of running a wire doesn't increase with the number of chargers. (Underground garage of an apartment complex if it wasn't obvious)