Re:Bot can beat humans in multiplayer hidden-role games
by empath75 on Tuesday December 10, 2019 @10:32AM
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It’s interesting that you’re referring to the ai as ‘someone’ and also that people take it for granted that ais can beat most people at most games.
Re:Bot can beat humans in multiplayer hidden-role games
by jobigoud on Tuesday December 10, 2019 @02:05PM
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> there is no measure of the quality of players
This is interesting in itself. 10 years ago it would have been very hard to write a program beating a human at a game where we don't know what makes a player better than another.
Re:Bot can beat humans in multiplayer hidden-role games
by 22c on Tuesday December 10, 2019 @11:07PM
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We do know what makes a player better, it's win rate. What GP is saying is there seems to be no leaderboard or ELO/MMR to really understand how good the AI actually is at the game.
Is this achievement closer to AlphaGo beating Lee Sedol, or is it more like AlphaStar beating a bunch of Bronze league players?
So, of course someone who’s played the game 100,000 or even 10 times is likely to beat someone who’s only just played maybe a handful of games. That’s not a bold - or arguably fair-claim to have beaten a majority of players if those players are all brand new —or a minority of those are veterans— which I suspect is likely given the nature of web based games.