The sad state of sysadmin in the age of containers (2015)

Re:The sad state of sysadmin in the age of containers (2015) by mcguire on Monday December 09, 2019 @04:21PM (#21746733)

But platform managers like maven are 1) language-specific, 2) jealous, insisting that every OS and extra-linguistic dependency has to conform to their way of doing things, and 3) fundamentally, not very good, particularly with regard to multiple versions of the same package (technically, OSGi could do that...), repeatable builds, and the desire for do-what-I-mean behavior.

Platform managers have been successful because a) they have the same interface across operating systems, b) they're the only game in town if you want to work in that language, and c) everybody loves to re-write existing software in their favorite new language.

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Re:The sad state of sysadmin in the age of containers (2015) by lmm on Monday December 09, 2019 @06:51PM (#21748050)

> 2) jealous, insisting that every OS and extra-linguistic dependency has to conform to their way of doing things

Not really. Language-specific package managers are usually capable of integrating with "system" dependencies from outside the language (certainly maven has decent support for this) - they kind of have to be after all.

> 3) fundamentally, not very good, particularly with regard to multiple versions of the same package (technically, OSGi could do that...), repeatable builds, and the desire for do-what-I-mean behavior.

How so?

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