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Re:Climate change and nutrient pollution are depleting oxyge... by bayarrhea on Sunday December 08, 2019 @11:23AM (#21736636)
Can you cite any of this?
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Re:Climate change and nutrient pollution are depleting oxyge... by NeedMoreTea on Sunday December 08, 2019 @12:05PM (#21736851)
Orwell wrote about communism not socialism in Animal Farm and 1984. Courtesy of his experiences, mainly in the Spanish Civil War, he became a left-leaning anti-communist democratic socialist, and supporter of UK Labour party until his death.
Re:Climate change and nutrient pollution are depleting oxyge... by edoo on Sunday December 08, 2019 @12:16PM (#21736909)
Um, in 1984 the ruling government instituted Ingsoc... English Socialism.
Re:Climate change and nutrient pollution are depleting oxyge... by NeedMoreTea on Sunday December 08, 2019 @12:27PM (#21736964)
Orwell himself said it was his imagining of communist totalitarianism as it might manifest in Britain. So don't get too hung up on IngSoc (The German Democratic Republic wasn't especially democratic - it was a (newspeak) theme) ;p

Let me see if I can find the actual quote...

[Edit:] There we go: "[Nineteen Eighty-Four] was based chiefly on communism, because that is the dominant form of totalitarianism, but I was trying chiefly to imagine what communism would be like if it were firmly rooted in the English speaking countries, and was no longer a mere extension of the Russian Foreign Office."

With lots of other references to communism, Stalinism and Stalin in the Wikipedia section. One more quote worth relaying:

In his 1946 essay "Why I Write", Orwell explains that the serious works he wrote since the Spanish Civil War (1936–39) were "written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism". Nineteen Eighty-Four is a cautionary tale about revolution betrayed by totalitarian defenders previously proposed in Homage to Catalonia

Hence calling him an anti-communist democratic socialist. :)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nineteen_Eighty-Four#Sources_f...

Re:Climate change and nutrient pollution are depleting oxyge... by mempko on Sunday December 08, 2019 @11:01AM (#21736518)
And yet, here we are, 30 years later, still increasing emissions, still using fossil fuels, still having a weak global coordination. How long do you expect this 'climate hoax plan' to take? Another 10 years? When will the 'globalists' finally take over with their climate hoax plan?
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Re:Climate change and nutrient pollution are depleting oxyge... by bayarrhea on Sunday December 08, 2019 @11:24AM (#21736642)
For edification, I stopped taking you seriously after this comment because it’s a right wing talking point.

Also, Orwell was a democratic socialist and 1984 wasn’t about socialism..

Re:Climate change and nutrient pollution are depleting oxyge... by dang on Sunday December 08, 2019 @12:07PM (#21736865)
We've banned this account for breaking the site guidelines. Could you please not create accounts to do that with? Eventually it gets your main account banned as well.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re:Climate change and nutrient pollution are depleting oxyge... by edoo on Sunday December 08, 2019 @11:32AM (#21736680)
Generally you stop taking someone seriously when you can disprove the data pushed, not because of some political cult mentality.
Re:Climate change and nutrient pollution are depleting oxyge... by dang on Sunday December 08, 2019 @12:06PM (#21736860)
Please don't do ideological flamewar on HN. We've had to ask you this multiple times before. Eventually we ban accounts that keep doing it.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html