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Re:Battery Pack Prices Fall As Market Ramps Up by m463 on Thursday December 05, 2019 @04:42PM (#21716901)
grid power where?

For PG&E in california, grid power is .23/.29/.51 per kwh (tiers depending on usage)

Re:Battery Pack Prices Fall As Market Ramps Up by mdorazio on Thursday December 05, 2019 @04:44PM (#21716933)
Re:Battery Pack Prices Fall As Market Ramps Up by cullenking on Thursday December 05, 2019 @05:57PM (#21717636)
You are forgetting delivery charges. It's between 0.11 and 0.12, with appropriate charges.
Re:Battery Pack Prices Fall As Market Ramps Up by erichocean on Thursday December 05, 2019 @06:16PM (#21717718)
I would love to get that from PG&E in California. As it is, and with the high cost of energy in datacenters (because it's triply redundant, etc.) I've been researching natural gas power generation at home to power my render farm, instead of putting it in a datacenter.

I can do it for about $0.17/kWh, which is cheaper that the energy I get from PG&E. Fixed cost for the generator is about $7K to power the farm.

Re:Battery Pack Prices Fall As Market Ramps Up by jamiek88 on Thursday December 05, 2019 @07:47PM (#21718337)
i'd factor in wear and tear on the generator there too they aren't meant for 24/7 use.
Re:Battery Pack Prices Fall As Market Ramps Up by mdorazio on Thursday December 05, 2019 @06:15PM (#21717703)
That's fair, but it doesn't really change the main point that you're looking at a stupid amount of hours equivalent to get to break-even while adding hundreds of charge cycles to an already-degraded battery. I can't really see this being a positive ROI purchase unless you want to use it for a vehicle. Used battery prices need to come down another 20-30% before it will make sense.
Re:Battery Pack Prices Fall As Market Ramps Up by 8bitsrule on Thursday December 05, 2019 @07:49PM (#21718354)
I'm surprised seeing that power-source chart for OR. In particular 60% NatGas+Coal, 30% hydro, 6% wind. Any idea why so little wind-power development yet?