Re:Battery Pack Prices Fall As Market Ramps Up
by allovernow on Thursday December 05, 2019 @03:18PM
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Well, perhaps GP was arguing that battery prices were functions of an economy of scale. No such property applies to petroleum, since growth in petroleum means going after more difficult reserves, which means higher prices.
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Re:Battery Pack Prices Fall As Market Ramps Up
by jeromegv on Thursday December 05, 2019 @04:06PM
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You still have to get lithium?
Re:Battery Pack Prices Fall As Market Ramps Up
by marcosdumay on Thursday December 05, 2019 @05:30PM
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Lithium is reasonably cheap already, and is in that stage where a marginal increase on scale brings the price lower, instead of higher.
Re:Battery Pack Prices Fall As Market Ramps Up
by ben_w on Thursday December 05, 2019 @05:16PM
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I’m not a chemist — would it be harder to get it from recycling old batteries than getting it from rocks?
Because even the battery market is saturated, recycling is the only source you’ll need.
Re:Battery Pack Prices Fall As Market Ramps Up
by salty_biscuits on Thursday December 05, 2019 @05:27PM
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There is a lot of lithium about, just not a lot of stuff that is easy to get at. The cost of lithium isn't a huge part of battery cost at the moment anyway (10s of dollars per kilo with about 50kg in an ev battery).
Re:Battery Pack Prices Fall As Market Ramps Up
by ben_w on Friday December 06, 2019 @04:18AM
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About 1kg/kWh?
Re:Battery Pack Prices Fall As Market Ramps Up
by the8472 on Thursday December 05, 2019 @05:29PM
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more succinctly: petroleum is a consumable needed for operation, lithium is a manufacturing input
Re:Battery Pack Prices Fall As Market Ramps Up
by lottin on Thursday December 05, 2019 @04:06PM
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It wouldn't make sense though, because economies of scale are enterprise-wide not industry-wide.
Re:Battery Pack Prices Fall As Market Ramps Up
by allovernow on Thursday December 05, 2019 @04:39PM
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I don't know that I'd agree with that. Look at the computer industry, for a example, and how many small, medium, and large agents all benefit from what amounts to a distributed economy of scale. Apple, Microsoft, Dell and the like all produce better products with less investment when their suppliers can spend fewer dollars per widget throughout the supply chain.
Re:Battery Pack Prices Fall As Market Ramps Up
by marcosdumay on Thursday December 05, 2019 @05:28PM
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They happen on both spheres.
But yes, I would really like to know the rationale behind the GP's opinion.