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Re:I spent 22 years in prison for a crime I didn’t commit by danShumway on Thursday December 05, 2019 @09:59AM (#21712765)
> if you have an alibi then you should tell that to the Police as soon as practical.

Do not take this advice. Talk to a lawyer.

If you have an alibi, you can tell your alibi to a lawyer, and your lawyer can communicate your alibi to the police before you go to trial. You won't be wasting anyone's time, you'll just be giving the police the same evidence through someone who is trained to talk to police officers, and isn't going to accidentally say something that's misinterpreted or twisted to turn your life into a nightmare.

If you are being suspected of a crime, it doesn't matter if you're innocent -- the police are not your friends.

Re:I spent 22 years in prison for a crime I didn’t commit by chrisseaton on Thursday December 05, 2019 @10:00AM (#21712788)
I didn't say don't talk to a lawyer first. You've imagined that part.

It is a fact full stop that a jury can hold it against you if you unreasonably delay giving important information - it's not my opinion.

Re:I spent 22 years in prison for a crime I didn’t commit by danShumway on Thursday December 05, 2019 @10:13AM (#21712917)
Fair enough -- I just want to stress that you should talk to the police through a lawyer.

You should not sit down and talk to the police unless your lawyer is sitting directly next to you. Ideally, your lawyer should contact the police on your behalf with your alibi and you should never directly talk to them.

We can't realistically keep a jury from holding that against you the same way that we can't realistically keep a jury from randomly misinterpreting the law, or convicting someone just because they're black -- but we make it clear to them that they're really not supposed to. And the risk from talking to the police without a lawyer present is much higher than the risk of a jury punishing you for exercising your 5th Amendment rights -- you should err on trusting a jury to do the right thing more than you should err on trusting a prosecutor to do the right thing.

Re:I spent 22 years in prison for a crime I didn’t commit by chrisseaton on Thursday December 05, 2019 @10:19AM (#21712993)
> but we make it clear to them that they're really not supposed to

No we don't in the UK.

Re:I spent 22 years in prison for a crime I didn’t commit by dbdjfjrjvebd on Thursday December 05, 2019 @10:13AM (#21712912)
Except in a very few cases related to terror or fraud or being at the border you have a right to a solicitor before answering questiins. Furthermore if the police don't allow you one then they would be breaking the law.
Re:I spent 22 years in prison for a crime I didn’t commit by chrisseaton on Thursday December 05, 2019 @10:17AM (#21712958)
Ok? That doesn't contradict anything I said.
Re:I spent 22 years in prison for a crime I didn’t commit by dbdjfjrjvebd on Thursday December 05, 2019 @10:22AM (#21713024)
The key is that asking for a solicitor is not an unreasonable delay.

So the basic advice not to talk to the police holds.

Re:I spent 22 years in prison for a crime I didn’t commit by kazagistar on Thursday December 05, 2019 @10:15AM (#21712943)
Waiting for a lawyer does not seem unreasonable.
Re:I spent 22 years in prison for a crime I didn’t commit by chrisseaton on Thursday December 05, 2019 @10:16AM (#21712954)
I didn't say it was?