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Re:Coming Soon: AWS Graviton2 Processor for AWS by walrus01 on Wednesday December 04, 2019 @06:20PM (#21708249)
Whatever happened with the Qualcomm Centriq ARM based server CPU? It never became available at any reasonable price in small quantities for software development/test/prototyping as something you could actually buy an ATX motherboard + CPU together and install (redhat, centos, debian, freebsd, whatever) on.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qualcomm_Centriq

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/qualcomm-server-chip-exit-...

https://www.networkworld.com/article/3327214/qualcomm-makes-...

Re:Coming Soon: AWS Graviton2 Processor for AWS by Twirrim on Wednesday December 04, 2019 @09:37PM (#21709497)
Amazon can afford to go all-in on building their own chips, with a solid goal of moving (almost?) all their AWS services over to them (I would bet good money that will become a requirement for services). They're also more forward thinking and experimental than most companies are, or can afford to be. The x86 is the "no one ever got fired for buying IBM" of CPUs.

This promises to be quite interesting. If Amazon can prove ARM as viable on their scale, that'll help companies like Qualcomm who were struggling to drum up attention from the more traditional markets.

Re:Coming Soon: AWS Graviton2 Processor for AWS by walrus01 on Wednesday December 04, 2019 @10:53PM (#21709840)
Yes, that's great for amazon, but what about everyone else on the planet who has x86-64 hypervisors and would like to have the option of purchasing a 3rd choice of CPU which is not Intel or AMD, at a price/performance ratio that is somewhat competitive with existing options?
Re:Coming Soon: AWS Graviton2 Processor for AWS by Twirrim on Wednesday December 04, 2019 @11:37PM (#21710029)
There are other x86-64 CPU manufacturers, but you're making a massive trade off for performance. Intel and AMD really have polished their stuff until it shines.

If Amazon can prove ARM can cope with server scale operations, and even outperform x86-64, you can have a high degree of confidence that other companies will get in the game. There are many more companies manufacturing ARM chips than x86-64 (due to licensing agreements, in part)

Re:Coming Soon: AWS Graviton2 Processor for AWS by wyldfire on Thursday December 05, 2019 @12:30AM (#21710201)
Qualcomm abandoned it when they became a target of an LBO.

It made sense for them to reuse their design expertise and hedge into other markets so that they didn't get stuck exclusively with trends in mobile devices. AAPL told their suppliers to withhold royalties, hurting revenue. And once AVGO took aim, they needed better focus. Centriq was a long term bet that could've worked out (cloudflare had a positive review) but it just wasn't in the cards.