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Re:Developers join call for GitHub to cancel its ICE contract by SolaceQuantum on Wednesday December 04, 2019 @12:37PM (#21704528)
” If they are successful here, the activists will not declare “mission accomplished”. Nope. They will then search for other contracts to be cancelled. And then there will be infighting as to why one should remain and another cancelled as disagreements mount.”

I am totally for the argument that enterprise services servicing specific entities is apolitical, and discussing the merits thereof. But I believe this is a slippery slope fallacy that weakens your argument and is hyperbolic.

Re:Developers join call for GitHub to cancel its ICE contract by gotoeleven on Wednesday December 04, 2019 @12:48PM (#21704692)
We have been sliding rapidly down a lot of slippery slopes in the last few years. It's pretty lazy to say "oh that's a slippery slope argument" and dismiss it.
Re:Developers join call for GitHub to cancel its ICE contract by culot on Wednesday December 04, 2019 @12:52PM (#21704748)
The Slippery Slope is often more truism than fallacy. In this situation it is spot-on.
Re:Developers join call for GitHub to cancel its ICE contract by electrograv on Wednesday December 04, 2019 @01:15PM (#21705088)
Rarely is a popular slippery slope argument (whether an accurate prediction or not) an actual logical fallacy: Most of the time when people accuse something of "The Slippery Slope Fallacy", they're mistaken as to what an actual logical fallacy actually is.

A legitimate logical fallacy of the "slippery slope" variety is when one observes a transition from state S_0 to state S_1 via some step/action X taken, and without evidence or justification (!) assumes/claims that the step/action X will therefore be repeated indefinitely until the system evolves to state S_2, S_3, S_4, ... S_n (where S_n is presumably a state we all consider to be undesirable). The "without evidence or justification" part here is EXTREMELY important. If you actually have evidence or justification of a slippery slope, it is not a fallacy; it becomes a valid argument.

Tip: When you see what looks like a slippery slope fallacy at first glance, it's probably best to give the opposing argument the benefit of the doubt by asking for evidence/justification for the induction (S_0 -> S_1) -> S_N. In most cases, some evidence will be provided to justify. If you disagree with the justification, the debate continues in that direction (which is good, because this is productive).

Re:Developers join call for GitHub to cancel its ICE contract by SkyBelow on Wednesday December 04, 2019 @01:20PM (#21705163)
>I believe this is a slippery slope fallacy that weakens your argument

Is it a slippery slope fallacy?

If we do A then B must happen and I think if we do A then B will happen are two different claims. The latter does not explain the reasoning and is thus not a slippery slope.

To give an example.

If we legalize same sex marriage, polygamy will become legal because of it.

This is a slippery slope slope because it is directly saying one will cause the other just because the first one will happen.

I think if we legalize same sex marriage, polygamy will eventually become legal. (Unsaid reasoning behind the opinion: Upon re-evaluating the existing laws in our push to legalize same sex marriage, combined with an existing acceptance of polyamory, we will see that there is no justifiable reason to keep 3+ adults who wish to form a family from doing so, and though the laws will be a bit more difficult to accommodate them, we will lose any sense of 'wrongness' that is used to justify the ban.)

This is not a slippery slope. The original claim is just not displaying their logic behind their opinion, but that does not mean their logic is a slippery slope.

The difficulty is that in the English language, the two can be written the same way and one won't know the intent without asking the author.

Re:Developers join call for GitHub to cancel its ICE contract by mc32 on Wednesday December 04, 2019 @12:48PM (#21704690)
Logical fallacies aren’t always wrong. I believe experience tells us that if you give in, more will be asked. Whether in haggling, contract negotiation, litigation, etc. Try negotiating with a kid.
Re:Developers join call for GitHub to cancel its ICE contract by electrograv on Wednesday December 04, 2019 @01:06PM (#21704945)
A legitimate logical fallacy should always "be wrong". The problem is that many people often mistakenly over-accuse arguments as being logical fallacies: the ironic fallacy of false fallacy accusations :)
Re:Developers join call for GitHub to cancel its ICE contract by zo1 on Wednesday December 04, 2019 @12:53PM (#21704763)
There is no objective standard for a public company to rely on in instances like this (at least not one we can all agree on). So the only metric they have is to go off of public opinion which has network and mob-like effects. Such effects are only amplified by the current media landscape that reports on the fact that outrage occurred instead of plain facts, further making it a "non-objective" problem.

It's the same on some level as freedom of speech. We "kinda" used to have a general standard about what we disallowed. But that's being challenged in recent years, and from my perspective, is only being driven by outrage rather than actual discussions to figure out a good and clearly defined common ground that acts in the best interests of our entire society.