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Re:So You Think You Want to Open a Brewery (2014) by zwieback on Tuesday December 03, 2019 @12:26PM (#21694405)
Couldn't agree more. I live in Oregon, the craft beer center of the universe, and find that the vast majority of craft beers is too overwhelming to actually enjoy.

There are more breweries learning how to do good lagers but still few and far between.

Re:So You Think You Want to Open a Brewery (2014) by sithadmin on Tuesday December 03, 2019 @12:34PM (#21694493)
To be fair, there's more risk in lagers and other 'light' styles. If you want to produce a consistent product, they're not particularly forgiving to variance in the mash and brewing processes.
Re:So You Think You Want to Open a Brewery (2014) by Eric_WVGG on Tuesday December 03, 2019 @01:25PM (#21695039)
This surprised me but Portland, Maine actually has twice as many craft breweries as Portland, OR.
Re:So You Think You Want to Open a Brewery (2014) by RandallBrown on Tuesday December 03, 2019 @02:10PM (#21695528)
I don't think that's true.

I've been to both, and while Portland Maine has a surprising number of breweries for its size, Portland Oregon had way more. A quick google search confirms Portland OR has more than twice as many as Portland ME.

If you include the Portland OR metro area, it has more breweries than the entire state of Maine.

Re:So You Think You Want to Open a Brewery (2014) by inferiorhuman on Tuesday December 03, 2019 @01:46PM (#21695261)
There are more breweries learning how to do good lagers but still few and far between.

That may be but Portland, Oregon has some excellent cider as well. Belmont Station in Hollywood is pretty much my go to place, they've a diverse selection of beer and cider.

Re:So You Think You Want to Open a Brewery (2014) by walrus01 on Tuesday December 03, 2019 @01:50PM (#21695310)
There are also a number of good ciders coming out of the apple growing regions of central WA. Usually located within 15-20km at most of the major cold storage warehouses where apples go after being picked.
Re:So You Think You Want to Open a Brewery (2014) by inferiorhuman on Tuesday December 03, 2019 @04:53PM (#21697178)
Out of Washington Finnriver's black currant cider is one of my favorites. There's a little cafe in St John's that's got it on tap, and that really is the best way to experience it.
Re:So You Think You Want to Open a Brewery (2014) by zwieback on Tuesday December 03, 2019 @02:00PM (#21695407)
Also my hometown of Corvallis: 2 Towns Ciderhouse
Re:So You Think You Want to Open a Brewery (2014) by inferiorhuman on Tuesday December 03, 2019 @04:59PM (#21697237)
Also my hometown of Corvallis: 2 Towns Ciderhouse

To be clear Belmont Station has both a bar (biercafé in hipster speak) and a store. The store has a really great selection of both beer and cider. My favorite is Reverand Nat's sour cherry — self-described as more of a lambic beer than a cider.

Their selection of California stuff isn't quite up to snuff but they carry 2 Towns as well — a friend had explain that reference to me.