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Re:Life expectancy in the U.S. is declining for middle-aged ... by downerending on Monday December 02, 2019 @12:41PM (#21684675)
Spoiler alert: In a rather small number of years, everything that's wrong with society will become your fault. Enjoy.
Re:Life expectancy in the U.S. is declining for middle-aged ... by jordandeang on Monday December 02, 2019 @02:07PM (#21685667)
This isn't just another cyclical generational war. Younger generations today are uniquely economically worse off than the older generations were at the same age. If that's the case in 30-40 years once economic and governing power has transferred to today's younger generations, then the blame would be well deserved.
Re:Life expectancy in the U.S. is declining for middle-aged ... by downerending on Monday December 02, 2019 @03:56PM (#21686819)
I'm open to data and a serious analysis.

That said, it's hard not to see such complaints as a combination of entitlement and cluelessness. As a Boomer, I never would have considered taking on college debt without a pretty clear analysis showing breakeven in a reasonable period. The idea of getting an arts degree crossed my mind, and I dismissed it as ridiculous within a couple of months.

Most of my friends went straight into the military, the trades, or general employment. State college was for maybe the top 20%, and I'm not sure I even knew anyone that went to a name school.

Work? Full time every summer starting at 16, and half time while school was in session. Housing? Live at home, or maybe the cheapest dorm. Car? Find a friend and give them gas money. Phone? Picture an Obama phone that's nailed to the kitchen wall and shared with three other people.

By today's standards, Boomers were not well off. Even so, most of what I've earned has already been transferred to the following generation.

Re:Life expectancy in the U.S. is declining for middle-aged ... by frockington1 on Tuesday December 03, 2019 @09:58AM (#21692752)
As a millennial I tend to agree. Anecdotal, but my friends that work hard and value money are becoming home owners and starting to raise a family. Those that focused on becoming an Instagram model are 80k in debt with nothing to show for it but a degree in Social 'Sciences'. I hope that the younger generations can see the traps millennials fell in to and plan accordingly
Re:Life expectancy in the U.S. is declining for middle-aged ... by jordandeang on Monday December 02, 2019 @04:35PM (#21687231)
https://www.newamerica.org/millennials/reports/emerging-mill... https://www.cbsnews.com/news/millennials-have-just-3-of-us-w... https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/08/07/for-most-us...

https://twitter.com/berniesanders/status/1121058539634593794

To approach these systemic issues as just the individual faults of young people is to essentially accept that these problems will never get better. That's the centrist boomer motto.

Re:Life expectancy in the U.S. is declining for middle-aged ... by downerending on Tuesday December 03, 2019 @12:43PM (#21694590)
I wouldn't know, as I haven't been invited to their meetings.

But seriously, I do accept that none of these problems will get better. The young and old are behaving as they always have and always will. As you get older, this becomes clearer, and the complaints of the young provoke a wry feeling when you remember issuing similar complaints yourself.

If it makes you feel any better, most of the people on HN are considerably younger and higher paid than I am.

Re:Life expectancy in the U.S. is declining for middle-aged ... by droithomme on Monday December 02, 2019 @10:19AM (#21683078)
It's interesting that Boomers are the latest scapegoat for all the world's ills. Last year it was the Russians. Oddly the Russians were also the fault of all that was wrong from 1950 to 1991, they get a lot of scapegoatry.

An older person advises a younger one that that apparently very cheap old rotted house (with years of poorly done repairs executed by a variety of amateur repairers and fly-by-night gypsy home contractors, many repairs of which exacerbated the decay) is too far gone and trying to fix it is going to be a waste of money that will lead to a loss of time and money invested. They'd be better off in the long run looking into some totally different better house, or if they must have that house and location, knocking down the rotted house and building a new one that looks like the old one but which has a coherent and efficient modern infrastructure underneath the gingerboard.

The younger person then will always say, "OK, boomer, so you think better things aren't possible. Whatever, cynical grandpa!", rolling their eyes. The old person shrugs because he expected nothing different. And the young one finalizes that purchase of the house and they set to being the latest owner that's going to fix it once and for all and maybe even flip it for a profit. Decades later, the house is worse off than when they started and they are broke.

Re:Life expectancy in the U.S. is declining for middle-aged ... by jordandeang on Monday December 02, 2019 @10:57AM (#21683514)
Your metaphor is missing the older person building the house on a the rotting foundation and the younger person not having another house to go to.
Re:Life expectancy in the U.S. is declining for middle-aged ... by frockington1 on Tuesday December 03, 2019 @10:01AM (#21692778)
It's surprising that an entire generation has now joined the cyclical boogeymen of Russia, China and anywhere in the Middle East
Re:Life expectancy in the U.S. is declining for middle-aged ... by gerbilly on Monday December 02, 2019 @01:45PM (#21685403)
What specifically do you propose for the "new house?"