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Re:Tesla Cybertruck may be unsafe for other road users: Aust... by themagician on Friday November 29, 2019 @07:01PM (#21667549)
This is true of a lot of small cars, like the Smart Car and the Fiat 500. They have pretty rigid structures but no crumple zones. The car survives, but everyone suffers massive internal bleeding. If any part of the car itself touches your head or chest in an accident, you basically die instantly.
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Re:Tesla Cybertruck may be unsafe for other road users: Aust... by Reason077 on Friday November 29, 2019 @07:39PM (#21667716)
NCAP crash testing works by placing sensors on test dummies and measuring the impact forces on their "bodies" under various crash scenarios.

In Euro NCAP testing, the Fiat 500 has a 3 star rating[1], and the Smart fortwo has a 4 star rating[2]. So while not among the safest cars on the market, they are certainly not the deathtraps you suggest. The Smart in particular offers very respectable occupant protection for its size.

[1] https://www.euroncap.com/en/results/fiat/500/26307

[2] https://www.euroncap.com/en/results/smart/fortwo/7894

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Re:Tesla Cybertruck may be unsafe for other road users: Aust... by lonelappde on Saturday November 30, 2019 @07:39PM (#21673025)
> The Smart in particular offers very respectable occupant protection

That's reassuring

> for its size.

That's not. Passengers risk rises with the size of the incoming car, not the car they are riding in.

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Re:Tesla Cybertruck may be unsafe for other road users: Aust... by Reason077 on Sunday December 01, 2019 @10:45AM (#21675965)
"Passengers risk rises with the size of the incoming car, not the car they are riding in."

There are much larger cars that perform worse on occupant protection tests than the Smart does. For example, the Jeep Wrangler:

https://www.euroncap.com/en/results/jeep/wrangler/34192

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Re:Tesla Cybertruck may be unsafe for other road users: Aust... by freehunter on Friday November 29, 2019 @08:34PM (#21667928)
I drove a 500 for years and had a couple of crashes. They absolutely are not as deadly as you describe. I had a motorcycle rear-end me at 55mph and I did not suffer any injuries and the motorcyclist walked away from the crash with mild injuries. I hit a deer at 55 and while it totaled the car, again I suffered no injuries. The 500 very much DOES have crumple zones.

“Basically die instantly” does anyone actually believe that?

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Re:Tesla Cybertruck may be unsafe for other road users: Aust... by lonelappde on Saturday November 30, 2019 @07:40PM (#21673033)
Neither of those is remotely comparable to a head on collision with 500+ lb car at 500-100mph relative.

If an opposing car pushes a part of your car into your body, that's like you being hit by a car while standing in front of a wall. Once the pressure wave hits your body, where is it going to go? You can't be "thrown clear" through the back of your own car.

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Re:Tesla Cybertruck may be unsafe for other road users: Aust... by freehunter on Sunday December 01, 2019 @10:25AM (#21675867)
If you honestly believe that, I recommend reading the crash test results linked in other comments or finding them on your own. This isn't a hypothetical, it's actually been tested and this "you will die instantly" is complete nonsense.
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Re:Tesla Cybertruck may be unsafe for other road users: Aust... by themagician on Tuesday December 03, 2019 @08:29PM (#21698806)
Uhhh in neither of those instances did you get hit by anything with substantial mass. If you did, you’d be dead. Survivor bias.
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