Remember them more honestly

Re:Remember them more honestly by empath75 on Friday November 29, 2019 @06:40PM (#21667454)

And then they did it again not even 30 years later and would have done it again if it wasn’t for the threat of mutual nuclear annihilation.

Remember that when people talk about the superiority of western civilization.

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Re:Remember them more honestly by hprotagonist on Friday November 29, 2019 @06:59PM (#21667536)

I mean, Vonnegut sure as shit knew that when he wrote those words.

30 years later he was in the basement of a slaughterhouse when his countrymen firebombed him and the rest of the city into slag, after all.

And I distinctly recall a rather large and conspicuously non-Western nation being involved in that particular war. Possibly more than that, depending on how you count.

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Re:Remember them more honestly by corporateslave5 on Friday November 29, 2019 @08:21PM (#21667877)

All that we have is a product of the west, there are arguments about why that is, but the fact remains

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Re:Remember them more honestly by thundergolfer on Saturday November 30, 2019 @01:46AM (#21668910)

You can't really believe this, as it's so obviously wrong.

It is also a contention that has pretty racist adherents; Charles Murray's Human Accomplishment book comes to mind. This isn't a coincidence, as suggesting that non-western peoples have contribute nothing of value to this "we" is pure western chauvinism, which is racism's non-identical twin brother.

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Re:Remember them more honestly by siegeofcondor on Friday November 29, 2019 @11:21PM (#21668494)

From religion to letters to numbers to agriculture to civilization itself, these are not the product of the west.

I think you are crediting too much to the west.

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