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Re:Singapore tells Facebook to correct post under new fake n... by selestify on Friday November 29, 2019 @12:14AM (#21662225)
What are false things that have strong evidence behind them?
Re:Singapore tells Facebook to correct post under new fake n... by JumpCrisscross on Friday November 29, 2019 @12:18AM (#21662237)
> What are false things that have strong evidence behind them?

Eh, the history of science is littered with these. From early theories of vision involving beams cast out by our eyes [1] to phlogiston [2].

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emission_theory_(vision)

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phlogiston_theory

Re:Singapore tells Facebook to correct post under new fake n... by phs318u on Friday November 29, 2019 @01:22AM (#21662476)
The difference being that science doesn’t consider truth a single absolute but a boundary on the body of knowledge. Old theorems are replaced by “truer” ones.

EDIT: autocorrect

Re:Singapore tells Facebook to correct post under new fake n... by roenxi on Friday November 29, 2019 @12:52AM (#21662358)
There are the pre- and post-execution exonerations [0] which are some good striking examples with human interest stories behind them. But really pick up a stack of court records proved to a substantial-evidence standard but not a beyond-a-reasonable-doubt standard. Bunch of those are going to be situations where a it looks like something happened but actually a different thing happened.

There simply isn't a formal way of determining truth. If there was it'd be in use somewhere. All the processes that work best are ones where decisions are made in a fair process where evidence is invoked, but there isn't a reasonable argument that evidence always paints an accurate picture. It simply can't. There is no process that gets all the decisions right; evidence based decision making is not enough.

If it turned out courts correctly identified the truth 80% of the time when working through cases I'd be impressed. And that is where we have formal experts doing their best with controls against bias and the potential to have independent judges making decisions. The best legal standard we have is 'beyond reasonable doubt' - I've been in plenty of situations where that standard would accept a bad conclusion; eminently reasonable people who try to make good, thoroughly considered decisions still make mistakes. Reasonable people were once extremely sexist and racist; for an easy example. For something as wide-ranging as political truth there is simply no hope.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_exonerated_death_row_i...

Re:Singapore tells Facebook to correct post under new fake n... by torstenvl on Friday November 29, 2019 @05:15PM (#21667151)
Pretty much every conclusion drawn from all studies where P < .05 is used as a proxy for truth, but which are later incapable of replication.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20895433