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Re:Nine climate tipping points now 'active,' warn scientists by ppf on Thursday November 28, 2019 @07:37AM (#21656809)
The only assertion I made is that the earth has been much warmer pre-historically, which is a well-known fact and can easily be verified. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geologic_temperature_record
Re:Nine climate tipping points now 'active,' warn scientists by gorpovitch on Thursday November 28, 2019 @08:11AM (#21657026)
It is true that the earth has already been warmer. We're reaching points that humans are never seen, though.

Second, the problem here is not only the total temperature variation but the speed at which the temperature is changing.

Think of the difference between a car going from 130 km/h to 0 km/h in 8 seconds, and a car going from 130 km/h to 0 km/h in 0.3 seconds. Not really endearing.

Re:Nine climate tipping points now 'active,' warn scientists by ppf on Thursday November 28, 2019 @08:29AM (#21657145)
Understood, although we have no way to know if there have ever been similar events, as the geologic record is something of a low-pass filter.

Just for the sake of argument, let's say you find yourself in a car in the second scenario, with no known way to stop it. What would you do? I say this as a pragmatist - if we take the headlines at face value, and we only have ~10 years to avert a catastrophe, then the only realistic way to avert it is if 90% of the world's population spends that 10 years planting trees before killing themselves.

Re:Nine climate tipping points now 'active,' warn scientists by imtringued on Thursday November 28, 2019 @10:24AM (#21657909)
I'm not sure what the point of suicide is when the worst that can happen as a result of climate change is death.
Re:Nine climate tipping points now 'active,' warn scientists by ppf on Thursday November 28, 2019 @10:41AM (#21658042)
Right, so what should we do?