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Re:Go master Lee Se-dol says he quits, unable to win over AI... by needToCrust on Wednesday November 27, 2019 @05:58PM (#21653017)
Hmm, I don’t think an ai could use optimization and learning algorithms to “learn” to DM D&D. For that, the ai would have to simply be an i.
Re:Go master Lee Se-dol says he quits, unable to win over AI... by bhouston on Wednesday November 27, 2019 @06:06PM (#21653076)
Eventually it can do your example of unique human intelligence whatever that example is.
Re:Go master Lee Se-dol says he quits, unable to win over AI... by pepve on Wednesday November 27, 2019 @06:22PM (#21653184)
Another example of unique human intelligence: drown in existential dread.

I can do that, you can do that, but will a computer be able to do it?

Re:Go master Lee Se-dol says he quits, unable to win over AI... by asib on Wednesday November 27, 2019 @07:46PM (#21653729)
I've written this in another comment but I'll repeat here. What you're asking really boils down to a combination of whether a human brain can be simulated and whether human intelligence is merely due to the physical brain (or do you believe in the existence of some intangible consciousness that cannot be replicated by a machine). Assume you believe both to be true, then your simulated brain is surely able to drown in existential dread because it's capable of no more and no less than the human one.
Re:Go master Lee Se-dol says he quits, unable to win over AI... by smallnamespace on Wednesday November 27, 2019 @07:39PM (#21653691)
I mean, you joke, but existential dread might be an adaptive response to a hostile environment.

...a situation we might want to simulate for training purposes

Re:Go master Lee Se-dol says he quits, unable to win over AI... by needToCrust on Wednesday November 27, 2019 @06:32PM (#21653243)
Ai won’t, but a machine with true intelligence will. That was the point of talking about ai needing to be i.
Re:Go master Lee Se-dol says he quits, unable to win over AI... by Zaak on Wednesday November 27, 2019 @07:33PM (#21653665)
So you're defining "AI" to be anything that we can currently program a computer to do, and "I" to be anything we can't yet? That doesn't seem like a useful distinction to me. Unless you're using "I" to mean general (artificial) intelligence, in which case you should probably use the more well-known term.
Re:Go master Lee Se-dol says he quits, unable to win over AI... by needToCrust on Wednesday November 27, 2019 @08:32PM (#21653935)
No, please don’t straw man my point. I’ll assume you know what ai is and that you understand there is a huge difference between that and human intelligence. I am arguing that ai will never be able to DM a D&D game. For that, a computer will need human intelligence.
Re:Go master Lee Se-dol says he quits, unable to win over AI... by UnbugMe on Thursday November 28, 2019 @01:18AM (#21655017)
But AI definition is still target-in-motion, very blurred.
Re:Go master Lee Se-dol says he quits, unable to win over AI... by needToCrust on Thursday November 28, 2019 @08:55AM (#21657340)
Why the but? I didn’t say anything that disagrees with that statement.
Re:Go master Lee Se-dol says he quits, unable to win over AI... by UnbugMe on Friday November 29, 2019 @07:28AM (#21663940)
I feel like it's far too blurry to make claims such as "will never be able to DM a D&D game".