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Re:Go master Lee Se-dol says he quits, unable to win over AI... by billfruit on Wednesday November 27, 2019 @12:59PM (#21650243)
I am no expert, but at least in chess, players have developed repertoire of styles intended to specifically beat computers, anti-computer tactics, essentially to try to confuse and mislead the AI, may be some such methods can be developed for go as well.
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Re:Go master Lee Se-dol says he quits, unable to win over AI... by sorenn111 on Wednesday November 27, 2019 @01:02PM (#21650260)
No human could successfully beat stockfish on any consistent basis. Maybe the best players in the world would draw a few games with a rare victory, but its tactical depth is just too deep
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Re:Go master Lee Se-dol says he quits, unable to win over AI... by drdeca on Wednesday November 27, 2019 @01:09PM (#21650324)
Can a team of (human + weaker AI) beat (stronger AI)?
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Re:Go master Lee Se-dol says he quits, unable to win over AI... by tzs on Wednesday November 27, 2019 @01:22PM (#21650447)
There was a four game match a few years ago where Hikaru Nakamura, #5 in the world at the time, played four games again Stockfish.

For two of the games, Nakamura had access to Rybka which was about 200 rating points weaker than Stockfish. Stockfish won one and the other was a draw.

For the other two games Nakamura did not have Rybka, but had white and pawn odds. Again, one win for Stockfish (b pawn odds) and one draw (h pawn odds).

In all the games, Stockfish was playing without its opening book and its endgame tablebases. It was running on a 3 GHz 8-core Mac Pro.

The games are here [1].

[1] https://www.chess.com/news/view/stockfish-outlasts-nakamura-...

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Re:Go master Lee Se-dol says he quits, unable to win over AI... by scarmig on Wednesday November 27, 2019 @01:47PM (#21650711)
It doesn't even need to be a weaker AI. If (human + stronger AI) can beat (stronger AI), then humans still provide value. For now.
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Re:Go master Lee Se-dol says he quits, unable to win over AI... by warkdarrior on Wednesday November 27, 2019 @03:01PM (#21651481)
For now...
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