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Re:Teacher Effects on Student Achievement and Height: A Caut... by jlawson on Wednesday November 27, 2019 @11:00AM (#21648941)
How do you know what really influenced your life outcomes?

We all have stories about a great teacher or a terrible parent. But these are anecdotes. You don't actually know what would have happened if you had different parents, or different friends, or went to a different school.

It's perfectly possible that if circumstances were different, you would have gotten to the same place, by a superficially different path.

The specific stories would vary, of course. But when we talk about society-level policy, it's not specific personal stories that we focus on. It's things like income, marital status, job field, health, criminality. A lot of evidence suggests that even if your specifics were very different you would have actually ended up largely in the same place on these metrics.

Re:Teacher Effects on Student Achievement and Height: A Caut... by Ididntdothis on Wednesday November 27, 2019 @11:29AM (#21649271)
“It's things like income, marital status, job field, health, criminality.”

Yes, it’s all of them. And they all need to be addressed instead of trying to pick the one all-dominant factor.

Re:Teacher Effects on Student Achievement and Height: A Caut... by godelski on Wednesday November 27, 2019 @12:57PM (#21650222)
> How do you know what really influenced your life outcomes?

> ... these are anecdotes.

Combine a lot of anecdotes and add in more scrutiny and we can call that data.