Re:The violence paradox: Is violence actually declining?
by Spoppys on Monday November 25, 2019 @05:57AM
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The Crime Survey for England & Wales isn't a government body.
A third way crime rates are independently checked in the UK, is hospital admissions statistics for shootings and stabbings.
Re:The violence paradox: Is violence actually declining?
by the-dude on Monday November 25, 2019 @06:07AM
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Police stations are closed en masse. Police has been in reorganisation since forever. Personnel is over-extended to the point they are contemplating strikes.
Re:The violence paradox: Is violence actually declining?
by Doxin on Monday November 25, 2019 @07:12AM
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> Police stations are closed en masse.
I can't find any info on that for the dutch police, do you have a source?
> Police has been in reorganisation since forever. Personnel is over-extended to the point they are contemplating strikes.
Yep. And it's getting worse. For now it's all still operating well enough but we're at an inflection point for sure.
Re:The violence paradox: Is violence actually declining?
by the-dude on Monday November 25, 2019 @08:14AM
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https://www.rtlz.nl/algemeen/binnenland/artikel/4394841/poli...
Are you actually living in NL?
Re:The violence paradox: Is violence actually declining?
by Doxin on Monday November 25, 2019 @11:06AM
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Yes I do live in The Netherlands. Excuse me for not remembering a year old news item that didn't have any direct impact on me.
Thanks for the source, closing police stations is definitely not a good sign. I hope that that's a trend that has reversed since that news article came out.
Personally I trust the dutch police force and in fact admire them greatly. They handle dangerous and stressful situations much better than I personally ever could. That said I do see why you'd be mistrustful as average citizen, the most you'll have to do with police is reporting crimes such as broken windows or stolen bikes, in which case you'll probably get a shrug and a "we'll look into it" at most.
The police force is currently very well trained and adequately supplied, but as is the story in many places budget cuts are being made all over and I worry for the future.
In any case an independent research office looking into the crime stats wouldn't be a bad thing, but I suspect it's a rather tricky thing to gauge in the first place.