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Re:Suspect can’t be compelled to reveal “64-character” passw... by lmm on Sunday November 24, 2019 @08:28AM (#21620276)
> First, the 5th amendment protection against revealing a password seems completely wrong to me, i.e. I'd expect it to get overturned at some point. The point of the 5th amendment was to prevent forced confessions, not to somehow block access to evidence (which the justice system is otherwise entitled to).

There's already established case law that the 5th protects case combinations; this is the reason why American safes use combinations while those everywhere else in the world use physical keys. Encryption keys are very similar on the face.

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Re:Suspect can’t be compelled to reveal “64-character” passw... by nerdponx on Sunday November 24, 2019 @09:07AM (#21620498)
What happens if important evidence is inside a safe, and the combination was written on a piece of paper that is now lost or destroyed? I imagine eventually the safe would be destroyed in order to access the evidence, but is the owner of the safe liable for withholding the evidence even if they don't know the combination?
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Re:Suspect can’t be compelled to reveal “64-character” passw... by feanaro on Sunday November 24, 2019 @10:02AM (#21620798)
This is on to something as encryption is basically a practically unbreakable safe (which can only store information).

I find it completely natural that cannot put people in jail just for possessing something which may possibly be an unbreakable safe just because unbreakable safes happen to exist.

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Re:Suspect can’t be compelled to reveal “64-character” passw... by syshum on Sunday November 24, 2019 @09:26AM (#21620603)
the Police can employ people to "crack" or other wise physically open the safe if they have a warrant.

The owner is not liable for withholding evidence, even if they know the combination as they are under zero legal requirement to tell the police the combination

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