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Re:The Captured City by leppr on Saturday November 23, 2019 @12:45PM (#21615326)
It's hard to imagine how a government set to police the minutiae of everyday life of pretty much a whole continent's worth of humans, can not be antagonistic with the majority of it. Even in such a uniform cultural environment as the US, local differences will "always" be too important to make such relations with a state-wide governing entity consensual. High-level principles and policies, sure, but low level policing and surveillance applied uniformly at such a scale can't be consensual.
Re:The Captured City by carapace on Saturday November 23, 2019 @01:22PM (#21615576)
> It's hard to imagine how a government set to police the minutiae of everyday life of pretty much a whole continent's worth of humans, can not be antagonistic with the majority of it.

Indeed! But I think it's important to try.

FWIW, I don't postulate that the ubiquitous surveillance is consensual at all, just inevitable. For a lot of people the amount and degree of casual surveillance is already becoming an issue.

I'm saying, if we have to have it, how do we want to manage it?