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Re:Average product lifespan of Google products before it kil... by cookie_monsta on Friday November 22, 2019 @04:50PM (#21610484)
Not a Google fanboy by any means, but couldn't this be read with the opposite conclusion as well - that the average time that Google keeps marginal products alive is 4 years?

Of course it's possible that everyone has some personal favourites amongst those 164, but if an idea really has legs what's to stop people from exhuming it from the Google graveyard?

Re:Average product lifespan of Google products before it kil... by underwater on Friday November 22, 2019 @05:01PM (#21610595)
It's probably more like a year with actual support and updates, two years where it's left to whither and slowly die, and then a year of notice before sunsetting it.
Re:Average product lifespan of Google products before it kil... by Pxtl on Friday November 22, 2019 @05:16PM (#21610709)
Yeah. By that logic MS has eternal support for everything, because MS has a legendary hardcore approach to backwards compatibility that they will release a product, push it hard, and then abandon development on it... but still have it "officially supported" for a decade while it bitrots into a nightmare... but never tell their users "stop using this, it's deprecated".

As much as I hate Google sunsetting products, I hate even more the companies that keep their zombies shuffling along in a state of undeath forever.

Re:Average product lifespan of Google products before it kil... by wvenable on Friday November 22, 2019 @06:06PM (#21611072)
That makes no sense. Nobody is forcing you to use an abandoned product. So you're obviously better off with the Microsoft model than the Google one.

A good example is VB6, the runtime is still supported in Windows 10 -- and necessary for one our largest vendor products to run -- yet the VB6 IDE only runs in XP. Our business would have been really screwed if they just dropped support for it. We are, of course, working to move to a different product and have the luxury of time to do that.

Re:Average product lifespan of Google products before it kil... by daxfohl on Friday November 22, 2019 @05:41PM (#21610881)
Or worse when an old product kinda pseudo gets merged into a new product, in a way that makes both of them worse. Better just to cancel the old one and move on.
Re:Average product lifespan of Google products before it kil... by throwawaytoday5 on Friday November 22, 2019 @04:55PM (#21610528)
4 years for a product is abysmal from one of the richest companies in the world. This is Google not some garage shop with 2 employees.
Re:Average product lifespan of Google products before it kil... by cookie_monsta on Friday November 22, 2019 @05:16PM (#21610705)
I have no idea what the metrics are, but to continue my devil's advocacy, would the counterpoint here be "average lifespan of a marginal product that doesn't get acquired by $BIG_COMPANY"?
Re:Average product lifespan of Google products before it kil... by visarga on Saturday November 23, 2019 @02:33AM (#21612938)
> but couldn't this be read with the opposite conclusion as well - that the average time that Google keeps marginal products alive is 4 years

Averages are misleading when the distribution is bi-or-multimodal.

Re:Average product lifespan of Google products before it kil... by cookie_monsta on Saturday November 23, 2019 @03:33AM (#21613101)
So are you saying that it couldn't be read like that?
Re:Average product lifespan of Google products before it kil... by KMnO4 on Saturday November 23, 2019 @09:18AM (#21614209)
Think about how many Google products have lasted much longer than four year: Search, Maps, Gmail, Drive, AdWords, etc. This skews the average.

What would be more helpful is a median, or percentiles (eg 75% of Google products only last X years, 25% last Y months). I imagine that would be much more representative of Google’s fail-fast experimentations.

Re:Average product lifespan of Google products before it kil... by cookie_monsta on Monday November 25, 2019 @10:02AM (#21628650)
FTA: The average lifespan of a discontinued Google product is 4 years and 1 month.

"Living" products aren't skewing anything

Re:Average product lifespan of Google products before it kil... by kedean on Saturday November 23, 2019 @01:12PM (#21615515)
Id be interested in seeing the median lifespan. I feel like it's possible there are long lived products bringing the average way up, although I could be wrong without diving in further.