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Re:Google Kills Cloud Print by _wldu on Friday November 22, 2019 @11:57AM (#21607397)
It seems pretty bold and visionary to me. They've lucked out with gmail, chrome, golang, android, maps, etc. and they still have the best search in the world.

Having a HIPPO tell everyone what to do, how to do it and when is not visionary. Letting engineers do what they want and then making money from the ideas is.

Re:Google Kills Cloud Print by scarface74 on Friday November 22, 2019 @12:24PM (#21607688)
Chrome was split off from WebKit, Android was acquired. They didn’t build either from scratch.

Compare their success to failure ratio to Apple, Amazon and Microsoft.

Re:Google Kills Cloud Print by kevinslashslash on Friday November 22, 2019 @02:37PM (#21609210)
And Apple bought NeXT which is what macOS and iOS are based off of. A purity contest of "from scratch" isn't really relevant. Google clearly put, and continues to put, a lot of serious technical work into Chrome and Android which is reflected in their success.
Re:Google Kills Cloud Print by scarface74 on Friday November 22, 2019 @03:17PM (#21609607)
Chrome isn’t a “success” because of any technical work. It’s a success because Google hocked it on their home page.

How is Chrome anymore of technical success than other browsers?

As far as Android, it came out in the Oracle trial that it only made about $22 billion in profit during its entire existence and the entire ecosystem is still a mess as far as security and updates compared to Windows - ie where one company controls the operating system and licenses it to other OEMs.

Not to mention that the entire Android market is a profit less race to the bottom for all of the manufacturers.

All that being said, Google still derives almost all of its profit from ads compared to Apple, Microsoft and Amazon who have had far more success in introducing diversified products.

But if Google’s failures can be attributed to a lack of leadership, most of Apple’s current success wasn’t the result of the NeXT acquisition. It was the result of bringing its founder back.

Re:Google Kills Cloud Print by username90 on Friday November 22, 2019 @04:38PM (#21610368)
> How is Chrome anymore of technical success than other browsers?

When chrome was new it was extremely innovative with how much space it gave to websites, and also came with orders of magnitude faster javascript. The other browsers then copied Chrome so all of them are now fast and sleek, but back then the difference was huge.

Re:Google Kills Cloud Print by scarface74 on Friday November 22, 2019 @04:43PM (#21610421)
Orders of magnitude faster than JavaScriptCore in 2008?
Re:Google Kills Cloud Print by username90 on Friday November 22, 2019 @04:50PM (#21610490)
Yes, it depends on what benchmarks you ran though. Example:

https://www.zdnet.com/article/google-chrome-is-insanely-fast...

Re:Google Kills Cloud Print by scarface74 on Friday November 22, 2019 @05:19PM (#21610729)
I specifically asked about JavaScriptCore - the (open source) JS engine part of Safari.
Re:Google Kills Cloud Print by amluto on Friday November 22, 2019 @12:12PM (#21607565)
> and they still have the best search in the world.

Which is disappointing, since Google of ten years ago had a distinctly better search.

Re:Google Kills Cloud Print by Enginerrrd on Friday November 22, 2019 @01:34PM (#21608473)
Yes! As soon as wikipedia stopped being the first result for nearly everything it started going downhill. The decline in usability for me has been most notable in the last 5 years.
Re:Google Kills Cloud Print by airstrike on Friday November 22, 2019 @12:52PM (#21608030)
Better for users, but not for investors.
Re:Google Kills Cloud Print by bouvin on Friday November 22, 2019 @12:39PM (#21607869)
Re:Google Kills Cloud Print by jefftk on Friday November 22, 2019 @01:01PM (#21608122)
"Google Maps began as a C++ desktop program at Where 2 Technologies. In October 2004, the company was acquired by Google, which converted it into a web application. After additional acquisitions of a geospatial data visualization company and a realtime traffic analyzer, Google Maps was launched in February 2005."