How the Iranian Government Shut Off the Internet

Re:How the Iranian Government Shut Off the Internet by sova on Thursday November 21, 2019 @09:49AM (#21594527)

Yes, information will spread in other ways, but simply saying "it will not work because information spreads in other ways" is batting a blind eye to how effective outages are, and how reliant and vulnerable we are to outages. We all use screen-based devices that connect to the web. If our countries did not offer streamlined cellular services, we would be at the same limitation. Internets require backbones. This is both a boon and a drawback. The spread of information is slowed dramatically, but also this requires more old-world creativity in message relaying. You can always put a USB stick on a pigeon's leg and get Gigabit transfer rates.

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Re:How the Iranian Government Shut Off the Internet by retrac on Thursday November 21, 2019 @11:18AM (#21595727)

Indeed. Television? Internet. Telephone? Internet. Messaging? Internet.

Without the Internet, my ability to communicate here would be reduced to printed pamphlets and receiving radio broadcasts.

In the great 2003 power outage in eastern North America, there were already problems communicating with people about the outage because a surprising number of people didn't have battery-powered radios. Kill the net, the phones, and cable TV and that cut off the majority of people 15+ years ago.

When the 2013 ice storm hit Toronto, entire neighbourhoods were in the information-dark after the backup generators for cell towers died. It wasn't long before my neighbours came knocking asking if I knew why the power was out and what was up. Phones were down. TV was down. Internet service was down. And they had no other way of getting information. I think I might have been the only person on the block with a battery-powered radio.

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Re:How the Iranian Government Shut Off the Internet by cheschire on Thursday November 21, 2019 @11:15AM (#21595696)

It's not the backbones that cause the issues. It's the centralized services we rely on.

Fully decentralized services don't make money, as they inherently rely on a population of providers to be exactly equal to them.

After Usenet fell out of favor, RSS sort of answered the mail here since aggregators could pull the news together and cache it. That is, until news services stopped providing more than the intro paragraph in their feeds.

But yes, social networks are central to many peoples relationships now and people would have to remember how to communicate without messenger apps again.

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Re:How the Iranian Government Shut Off the Internet by howard941 on Thursday November 21, 2019 @11:59AM (#21596266)

I don't see the Usenet connection to RSS. Could you flesh it out a little bit please? Before the governors used the fear of pr0n to encourage willing ISPs to kill netnews it was a nice free distributed "town square" kind of service that came along with an ISP account. The ability to download article headers via NNRP is the only obvious commonality with RSS.

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