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Re:The Hierarchy of Cringe by vintermann on Wednesday November 20, 2019 @07:35AM (#21583333)
I usually think of "cringe" as vicarious embarrassment. You look at someone doing something that you would have felt deeply embarrassed about having done (Maybe you have done it, or something uncomfortably close to it, in the past).

I think it's a kind of involuntary empathy in a strictly mechanical sense - feeling as if you were that person when you look at them. Because when you think about it coldly, it's not obvious why you should care that other people are embarrassing themselves.

So it's not empathy in the ethical sense. On the contrary, people who talk about "cringe" are often fiercely angry at the people making them feel this way.

Re:The Hierarchy of Cringe by antonvs on Wednesday November 20, 2019 @07:52AM (#21583432)
> Because when you think about it coldly, it's not obvious why you should care that other people are embarrassing themselves.

It has to do with enforcing and confining oneself to acceptable social behavior, and reinforcing those boundaries for oneself.

As you say, it's involuntary, or instinctive, like many social behaviors.

> On the contrary, people who talk about "cringe" are often fiercely angry at the people making them feel this way.

Aside from blaming them for the discomfort, this is also part of the enforcement aspect.

Re:The Hierarchy of Cringe by gnode on Wednesday November 20, 2019 @09:05AM (#21583963)
I find it interesting to consider that empathetic experience can make us hostile and less altruistic, and that this is a common yet little acknowledged phenomenon. To dehumanise, denigrate or expel someone is a way to reconcile empathy felt for them, and sometimes more obvious, accessible, or apparently righteous than altruism.
Re:The Hierarchy of Cringe by Pigo on Wednesday November 20, 2019 @09:55AM (#21584394)
It's almost as hard to describe as ASMR.