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Re:How to run your own mail server (2017) by linsomniac on Tuesday November 19, 2019 @08:30PM (#21580315)
So your recommendation to having your mail not go directly to spam is to run it for a decade? Got it! :-)

I run a mail server for a few thousand users that has been going for ~20 years, and have regularly had to spend significant time figuring out adjustments the big mail providers make along the way. Spending a day roughly every year figuring out and implementing countermeasures isn't that bad, when you get paid for it. But I really don't have the time to do it for my personal e-mail.

Your answer reminds me of something I heard a greenskeeper say about the big garden he maintains, I think in the UK: Tourists come to me all the time and ask "How can I get my lawn to look like this?" I reply: "The secret is to roll the dew off the lawn every morning." "That's it?" "Just do that for 300 years and your lawn will look like this."

Re:How to run your own mail server (2017) by kazinator on Tuesday November 19, 2019 @08:35PM (#21580338)
If you have to do it for your personal mail compared to a few thousand users, the problems will obviously be fewer, because you don't send to as many different destinations as a crew of a few thousand users.

> "Just do that for 300 years and your lawn will look like this."

My point is that I've never had problems in that decade, not that it took a decade to fix. I think on two or three occasions, mail to a gmail user mysteriously bounced, but it went away on re-try.

I understood the reputation problem from the beginning instead of banging my head against it. Why I understood that is because I did some research into running mail servers before diving into it.

Re:How to run your own mail server (2017) by linsomniac on Wednesday November 20, 2019 @01:40PM (#21586956)
And my point, not to belabor it, is that reputation seems to be a pretty big deal these days, and your experience running a mail server with a decade of reputation may be different than the experience someone has setting up an e-mail server today. :-)
Re:How to run your own mail server (2017) by kazinator on Wednesday November 20, 2019 @07:32PM (#21590233)
I do not have an e-mail server that has any reputation.
Re:How to run your own mail server (2017) by linsomniac on Thursday November 21, 2019 @12:30AM (#21591682)
If you run a mail server for a decade, as I believe you said you have, then you've gotten a reputation. This site lists some places you can check the reputation: https://sendgrid.com/blog/5-ways-check-sending-reputation/