Re:Sweden Drops Julian Assange Rape Investigation
by saghm on Tuesday November 19, 2019 @12:31PM
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To be fair, support for removing Nixon from office among Republicans appeared rather rapidly, and there were still Republicans staunchly in support of him until the end https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/it-took-a-long-time-for...
Re:Sweden Drops Julian Assange Rape Investigation
by jki275 on Tuesday November 19, 2019 @12:34PM
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Nixon had a whole lot of other things going against him.
Re:Sweden Drops Julian Assange Rape Investigation
by munk-a on Tuesday November 19, 2019 @12:52PM
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Nixon also had a whole lot of things going for him, he was hardly an unpopular president and the watergate scandal is sort of ridiculous with hindsight because he won re-election by a wide margin. The 1968 election was close and he likely would have lost if not for the trainwreck that was Wallace, but in 1972 he absolutely trounced McGovern.
Nixon was a generally popular president and it took a long time for his support to start slipping. His famous line "People have got to know whether or not their President is a crook. Well, I'm not a crook. I've earned everything I've got." wasn't nearly as in poor taste as it seems in hindsight.
Re:Sweden Drops Julian Assange Rape Investigation
by rootusrootus on Tuesday November 19, 2019 @12:35PM
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I agree, though it is worth remembering that Nixon had strong GOP support right up until the day he did not. Trump is safe now (though I figure the odds of him being impeached are 100%) but if anything comes out that seriously deteriorates the support of the base, the Senate can change gears very quickly.
Re:Sweden Drops Julian Assange Rape Investigation
by stjohnswarts on Tuesday November 19, 2019 @12:26PM
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Yeah I don't see how the trial will go through, there is no way they get 67 votes in the senate. He would have to literally walk up and shoot a nun in the face on camera before those Republicans would budge, they've already made up their mind he's forgiven for (almost) any crimes while he's in office.
Re:Sweden Drops Julian Assange Rape Investigation
by magduf on Tuesday November 19, 2019 @01:03PM
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Some of them have already said they'd be fine with him shooting someone in broad daylight on a NYC street, and think that this isn't an impeachable offense.
Re:Sweden Drops Julian Assange Rape Investigation
by stjohnswarts on Tuesday November 19, 2019 @01:35PM
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That's hyperbole though. they're just showing that they are trumpers until something ridiculous like that happens. I'm sure there are some zealots but 99% of them would not be cool with him murdering someone in cold blood.
Re:Sweden Drops Julian Assange Rape Investigation
by magduf on Tuesday November 19, 2019 @05:27PM
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It's not hyperbole, this is directly from Congressional Republicans. They believe that "executive immunity" means the President can commit whatever crimes he wants in office, and is immune from prosecution until his term is over.
The Senate would have to have 67 votes in a majority republican controlled body to remove him. That simply will not happen -- even in the House, which is politically far more independent, the Democratic Party was not able to get a single Republican vote, and even had defectors from their own party just to authorize the proceedings at all.
You can't win an impeachment trial without broad bipartisan support, and there is exactly zero bipartisan support for this proceeding.