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Re:Sweden Drops Julian Assange Rape Investigation by boomboomsubban on Tuesday November 19, 2019 @11:12AM (#21574509)
The United Nations has criticized the US for it's treatment of prisoners in the past, the US just ignores them. It is worth noting that the two million incarcerated are serving sentences for crimes they were convicted of, making it marginally less horrible than Assange's situation.
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Re:Sweden Drops Julian Assange Rape Investigation by L_Rahman on Tuesday November 19, 2019 @02:36PM (#21577271)
Assange's living conditions were entirely self inflicted. He could have surrendered himself to the Swedish authorities, undergone a trial and had he served time would have spent time in a prison system known for its humane treatment and low recidivism rates: https://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/nov/26/prison-swede...

I am of course assuming that he wouldn't be extradited to the US, in which case not surrendering was the correct choice.

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Re:Sweden Drops Julian Assange Rape Investigation by boomboomsubban on Tuesday November 19, 2019 @05:46PM (#21579168)
>I am of course assuming that he wouldn't be extradited to the US,

How can you make this assumption given that he was extradited for the exact reasons he mentioned?

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Re:Sweden Drops Julian Assange Rape Investigation by L_Rahman on Wednesday November 20, 2019 @06:13AM (#21582843)
I am not making that assumption, only pointing out that my argument hinges on that being the case and concede that if he does get extradited it was smarter from his perspective to be a fugitive.
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Re:Sweden Drops Julian Assange Rape Investigation by zepto on Tuesday November 19, 2019 @08:06PM (#21580175)
When was he extradited?
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Re:Sweden Drops Julian Assange Rape Investigation by boomboomsubban on Tuesday November 19, 2019 @08:24PM (#21580276)
His extradition has been requested, I should have made that clearer.
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Re:Sweden Drops Julian Assange Rape Investigation by zepto on Tuesday November 19, 2019 @10:36PM (#21580892)
Seems like if that request is denied then he’ll have confined himself to the embassy for nothing.
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Re:Sweden Drops Julian Assange Rape Investigation by tripzilch on Wednesday November 20, 2019 @06:44AM (#21583008)
Except this whole subthread started over a remark that what he went through wasn't as bad as how the US treats people in its jails.

Which was still bad enough to deserve a written condemnation from the UN.

The US simply ignores all these reports by various international oversight organisations such as the UN, or the ICC (there are strictly per definition no war criminals among US citizens isn't that great).

So yeah, ending up there, especially after you pissed them off, is something to be avoided at all costs.

Doesn't mean that someone is deserving of any and all treatment that is strictly "not as bad" (because that's a pretty friggin low bar).

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Re:Sweden Drops Julian Assange Rape Investigation by boomboomsubban on Wednesday November 20, 2019 @07:01AM (#21583121)
Not necessarily. If the UK refuses the request, they likely would have accepted the request from Sweden, and Sweden may have then turned him over to the US.
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Re:Sweden Drops Julian Assange Rape Investigation by zepto on Wednesday November 20, 2019 @09:49AM (#21584353)
The OP is about how Sweden has dropped it’s request.
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Re:Sweden Drops Julian Assange Rape Investigation by boomboomsubban on Wednesday November 20, 2019 @11:02AM (#21585014)
So? For most of his confinement, Sweden was prepared to extradite him, meaning the confinement wasn't for nothing even if the UK refuses the request.
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Re:Sweden Drops Julian Assange Rape Investigation by seppin on Tuesday November 19, 2019 @03:37PM (#21578005)
He also had/has significant mental issues before the matter began.
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Re:Sweden Drops Julian Assange Rape Investigation by tyingq on Tuesday November 19, 2019 @11:27AM (#21574738)
There are plenty of arrested, but not convicted, prisoners in city and county jails in the US. Often for months or longer.
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Re:Sweden Drops Julian Assange Rape Investigation by boomboomsubban on Tuesday November 19, 2019 @11:30AM (#21574787)
Yes, but not the two million mentioned.
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Re:Sweden Drops Julian Assange Rape Investigation by tyingq on Tuesday November 19, 2019 @11:49AM (#21575073)
It's close to 500k on an average day. https://www.americasquarterly.org/aborn-prisons
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Re:Sweden Drops Julian Assange Rape Investigation by bluejekyll on Tuesday November 19, 2019 @11:49AM (#21575067)
It looks like aprox. 500,000 according to this article from 2016: https://www.thenation.com/article/almost-half-a-million-peop...
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Re:Sweden Drops Julian Assange Rape Investigation by jeffdavis on Tuesday November 19, 2019 @01:38PM (#21576528)
Progress is being made with the elimination of cash bail in some places, and Trump's First Step Act.
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Re:Sweden Drops Julian Assange Rape Investigation by chrisco255 on Tuesday November 19, 2019 @01:49PM (#21576683)
To point made above, yes, it's just Federal, but the Federal stance on this could influence states to follow suit, especially since it had bipartisan support...a precious commodity in public policy these days.
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Re:Sweden Drops Julian Assange Rape Investigation by tyingq on Tuesday November 19, 2019 @01:43PM (#21576584)
At first glance, First Step looks like progress. But, it seems to only apply to Federal inmates, which is only 10% (or less) of the prison population.
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Re:Sweden Drops Julian Assange Rape Investigation by jeffdavis on Wednesday November 20, 2019 @12:22AM (#21581302)
So, 10% is not progress?
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Re:Sweden Drops Julian Assange Rape Investigation by tyingq on Wednesday November 20, 2019 @07:23AM (#21583258)
It's progress. I wasn't sure that everyone knew it applied only to Federal prisoners. Thought that was worth sharing.
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