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Re:Facebook, Google Fund Nonprofits Shaping Privacy Debate by shakna on Monday November 18, 2019 @10:59AM (#21565312)
_Can_ any large dataset actually be anonymised effectively?

I'm not yet convinced it can be done in a way that can't trivially be reversed by anyone combining it with other datasets.

And if it can't be anonymised, then it probably shouldn't be saleable.

Re:Facebook, Google Fund Nonprofits Shaping Privacy Debate by jackpirate on Monday November 18, 2019 @11:38AM (#21565679)
The US Census famously used differential privacy in their most recent surveys. They have a quite extensive analysis of the tradeoffs they had to make to ensure everyone's privacy, and there is a fairly large body of academic work that analyzes (e.g.) the economic impact of this privacy preservation. The general consensus AFAIK is that they did a great job.

See https://arxiv.org/abs/1809.02201 for the main paper from the Census.

Re:Facebook, Google Fund Nonprofits Shaping Privacy Debate by shakna on Monday November 18, 2019 @09:48PM (#21570287)
I'm not sure that this can be done with certain datasets, like health data.

If you had access to anonymised health data from my nation, for example, picking me personally out of the records would be extremely trivial, using just two data points:

+ I have an illness that only 1% of people have.

+ I lost my spleen whilst I was in primary school.

Both of those things are actually a matter of public record, thanks to being mentioned in various local newspapers, so it's reasonable to assume someone somewhere has that data.

I believe the general consensus on health data is that you have the age a person was at an incident, and the nature of an incident, you only need to have two or three incidents in your database to de-anonymise their records.

The only way to combat it is to not provide the detail required for the analysis that is exactly what the above organisations wish to do. No profiles, no fine-grained demographics.

And yet, people with rarer illnesses or events than mine will still stand out, so you also need to eliminate them from the dataset, even though they may well be the ones who could benefit most from this sort of widescale analysis.

Re:Facebook, Google Fund Nonprofits Shaping Privacy Debate by imglorp on Monday November 18, 2019 @11:40AM (#21565721)
Furthermore, the data may be static, but de-anonymization capabilities are not and may improve over time to identify someone.

For example, if they're tracking all instances of various ailments seen by some doctor in some time period. Suppose you are the only person of a given age and gender with that ailment, so that bucket would one entry for anonymous you. Fine. But then suppose the aggregating party begins to buy and correlate against credit card and location records that place you at the doctor's office in that time frame, bingo, they have a match to tie all three data.