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Re:Interpol plans to condemn encryption spread, citing preda... by wruza on Monday November 18, 2019 @01:10AM (#21562275)
>the answer is to fix the government and the laws, and not to sneak around

It would be nice if someone “fixed” some governments (and some crimes as a side quest), but 1) condemning privacy only makes this harder than de-facto almost impossible. 2) “prove someone said something” is not how our earth-wide culture works. We are basically based on the fact that conversations are private to some extent.

Did you find yourself in a situation when your opponent knows your every step and thought and you don’t? Play any game that way and see where it goes.

>We need more immutability and also work hard to make governments not punish people for victimless crimes.

That’s cool, but something hints me you’re not living in one of these countries where hard work is required. Swap with one of its citizens, make a change, then we talk.

Re:Interpol plans to condemn encryption spread, citing preda... by EGreg on Monday November 18, 2019 @10:11AM (#21564857)
What if we apply the same radical transparency to government as well? No more secret courts or meetings, even black ops must be revealed after each limited operation is complete, everything must be out in the open. But leave democratic elections, for instance.

Would any government agree to unilaterally do this? I think the biggest danger will come not from the other governments but from losing the ability to be bribed and do unaccountable things.

Re:Interpol plans to condemn encryption spread, citing preda... by lifthrasiir on Monday November 18, 2019 @01:42AM (#21562385)
> That’s cool, but something hints me you’re not living in one of these countries where hard work is required. Swap with one of its citizens, make a change, then we talk.

There are some points in the GP though. Ideally we should try to fix the government and the laws for who can't, but even people in countries blessed enough to be able to try don't try enough.

Re:Interpol plans to condemn encryption spread, citing preda... by AdrianB1 on Monday November 18, 2019 @04:39AM (#21562992)
Then until you are successful in fixing all the governments put the encryption discussion on hold. Then we can see the remaining arguments.