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Re:Microsoft is working to bring 64-bit Intel app emulation ... by muststopmyths on Saturday November 16, 2019 @09:50AM (#21552879)
They're trying to "unlimit" it by making emulated x86/x64 apps work, otherwise the chicken/egg/app/platform problem persists.

Supposedly ARM is more power efficient than the x86 family, so you'd get lighter laptops with longer battery life.

I would love to know from the HW experts here what happens when you start running your usual desktop workload on an ARM device. Does the power consumption stay low ?

looking at how quickly phones run out of battery when playing games, my feeling is that the ARM advantage is over-hyped, but I'd be interested in opinions from people who know this stuff.

Re:Microsoft is working to bring 64-bit Intel app emulation ... by scarface74 on Saturday November 16, 2019 @10:01AM (#21552942)
Phones have much smaller batteries and you’re not going to usually be playing graphic intensive games on a laptop. Besides, games usually use the GPU which would use up more battery.
Re:Microsoft is working to bring 64-bit Intel app emulation ... by lostgame on Saturday November 16, 2019 @11:58AM (#21553586)
Reviews have stated the emulation performance is terrible - akin to Rosetta back in the PPC/Intel transition into OSX.

I read two reviews which stated even 32-bit Chrome’s performance was terrible compared to the native ARM 64-bit Edge, and Photoshop, etc, are borderline unusable.

Stranger still, the Surface Pro X’s battery life has been reported to be on par or poorer than the less expensive Intel-native Pro 7’s - I’m rather confused by Microsoft’s strategy here.

The Surface RT didn’t work.

Re:Microsoft is working to bring 64-bit Intel app emulation ... by zlynx on Saturday November 16, 2019 @01:54PM (#21554254)
I acquired a Surface Pro X. I can't compare it to a 7 but battery life is excellent so far.

One thing that my previous Surface Pro 4 did was Connected Standby. It would usually be fine and wake up after an hour asleep just 1 or 2 percent battery down. But then other times I'd go to use it and it'd be at 20%.

So far this X has not betrayed me like that. It's been good for regular tablet use (not continuous) for 10 hour days, easy.

Re:Microsoft is working to bring 64-bit Intel app emulation ... by muststopmyths on Saturday November 16, 2019 @01:14PM (#21554040)
Sorry, my phrasing was terrible, as usual. I know the emulated performance is terrible. My query is about native ARM desktop workloads vs native x86 desktop workloads (if Microsoft's vision comes to fruition) in terms of power consumption. I really can't imagine they'd be different, but I don't know enough about it other than "tech press" comparing phone battery lives to laptops.
Re:Microsoft is working to bring 64-bit Intel app emulation ... by OkGoDoIt on Saturday November 16, 2019 @04:47PM (#21555187)
I am also quite curious about this. Just like when I see review sites benchmark an iPad versus a surface pro running full windows, I can’t help but be confused as to what anyone really hopes to learn from such an apples to oranges comparison