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Re:The Measure of Intelligence: towards more human-like arti... by xamuel on Friday November 15, 2019 @04:18PM (#21548857)
That core point is like a variation on a lemma in a paper I recently published (Lemma 2 in [1]): There can be no single deterministic interactive reward-giving environment which can, by its lonesome, serve as a good proxy for general intelligence of deterministic agents.

The proof is fairly simple. Suppose E were such an environment. I claim that every intelligent agent is exactly as intelligent (according to intelligence as measured by performance in E) as some "blind" agent, where by "blind" I mean an agent which totally ignores its surroundings.

Let A be any deterministic agent. If we were to place A in the environment E, then A would take certain actions, call them a1, a2, a3, ..., based on A's interaction with E.

Now define a new agent B as follows. B totally ignores everything and instead just blindly takes actions a1, a2, a3, ...

By construction, B acts exactly the same as A within E, therefore, as measured by E-performance, A and B are equally intelligent. So, for any particular environment, every agent is just as intelligent as some "blind" agent. But that's clearly a very bad property for an alleged intelligence measure to possess!

[1] https://philpapers.org/archive/ALEIVU.pdf

Re:The Measure of Intelligence: towards more human-like arti... by elcomet on Friday November 15, 2019 @04:46PM (#21549112)
I'm not sure I follow.

What if you change the initial conditions of the environment?

Then A would act differently, but B would still act the same because it is blind.

So now they are not taking the same actions. It seems impossible to have a blind agent that follows a non-blind in all situations.

Re:The Measure of Intelligence: towards more human-like arti... by xamuel on Friday November 15, 2019 @04:51PM (#21549154)
The argument is for deterministic environments--no initial condition dependence.

If initial conditions are allowed, then you can consider the following environment: initial condition is an arbitrary source-code; the environment proceeds to implement said source-code. Clearly this "environment" is too all-encompasing to be considered as a single environment.

Re:The Measure of Intelligence: towards more human-like arti... by aristus on Friday November 15, 2019 @04:47PM (#21549118)
Isn't that basically Searle's Chinese Room argument?
Re:The Measure of Intelligence: towards more human-like arti... by xamuel on Friday November 15, 2019 @04:52PM (#21549175)
Not really, unless I'm missing something. They have thematic similarities, I suppose.