Taylor Swift: Don’t know what else to do

Re:Taylor Swift: Don’t know what else to do by solipsism on Friday November 15, 2019 @12:24AM (#21542425)

I think there are two things that weaken Swift’s message here

1/ There’s no need to call out gender

If you think that'll weaken her message, you haven't been paying attention to society lately. This will resonate strongly with the people she intends it to resonate with.

Maybe you mean it makes the message less compelling to you personally. I'm not sure Taylor cares about that though...

2/ When your net worth is measured in the hundreds of millions of dollars it seems calculating and disingenuous to try to have your way in the court of public opinion.

Again, I don't think you're thinking things through. Taylor's fans are incredibly loyal. The only people who are likely to think of this as bullying are already not her fans.

If anything, this tells me Taylor should consider politics. It seems like she knows how the game is played these days.

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Re:Taylor Swift: Don’t know what else to do by gorgoiler on Friday November 15, 2019 @12:43AM (#21542535)

Thanks for responding to my comment. I should be clearer that I think her message is weak specifically on a moral basis. That’s a bad thing because it is pretty damaging behavior to see coming from someone with so much influence over young people.

As a piece of PR though, you are absolutely right. There’s nothing weak at all in this message.

Attempting to mobilize millions of fans like this is a nuclear option not only because it is a huge expression of power, but also an apt analogy in terms of the morality of whether such power should be used at all. (Said with all due respect to the victims of actual nuclear weapons.)

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Re:Taylor Swift: Don’t know what else to do by solipsism on Friday November 15, 2019 @01:42AM (#21542798)

also an apt analogy in terms of the morality of whether such power should be used at all. (Said with all due respect to the victims of actual nuclear weapons.)

Ignoring the respect part, I don't see the analogy. No civilians are going to suffer here. She's attacking record execs. Bloodsuckers. No one's going to shed a tear.

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Re:Taylor Swift: Don’t know what else to do by gorgoiler on Friday November 15, 2019 @03:22AM (#21543201)

Society as a whole suffers when our leading society members, particularly our children’s cultural leaders, act like ass hats.

There’s potentially a moral justification for rousing up mob justice if you are marginalized to the point of having no other way of making your voice heard, but Taylor Swift is literally the opposite of someone whose voice isn’t heard.

She should go fight it in court. Leave the teenage fan club out of it.

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Re:Taylor Swift: Don’t know what else to do by SllX on Friday November 15, 2019 @12:33AM (#21542483)

There aren’t any original ideas here. Taylor Swift is intelligent and already knows the political climate and can ruthlessly exploit it to her own benefit. We are all our own best advocates, she’s not any different.

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Re:Taylor Swift: Don’t know what else to do by xwdv on Friday November 15, 2019 @01:26PM (#21547336)

We do not need more people exploiting political climates to their own benefit. We need people exploiting it for the benefit of others.

Taylor Swift ultimately cares only about herself and her carefully curated persona.

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Re:Taylor Swift: Don’t know what else to do by SllX on Saturday November 16, 2019 @02:47PM (#21554516)

That’s the nature of individual free will. You use what you have to your benefit and the benefit of your progeny. Turns out Taylor Swift has a lot and it’s not just money.

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