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Re:AMD Ryzen 9 3950X Review by greatpatton on Thursday November 14, 2019 @10:50AM (#21536326)
Yet the main question remain if the benchmark were done with the latest mitigation (and version of the microcode) or without...
Re:AMD Ryzen 9 3950X Review by IanCutress on Thursday November 14, 2019 @05:15PM (#21540060)
No, I didn't have time to run 30hr+ of tests on 7-10 Intel CPUs with only 24 hours notice from the announcement yesterday
Re:AMD Ryzen 9 3950X Review by washadjeffmad on Thursday November 14, 2019 @11:39PM (#21542244)
That would be responsible to mention in the review, with a promise to publish new comparisons whenever new mitigations are released.

Intel's security flaws pushed our LCRs up at least two years and cost us extra in over-provisioning to account for real and potential performance loss. If Intel isn't actually hardware mitigating (as in, making no effort to redesign their chips with security in mind and instead playing whack a mole with vulnerabilities as they're discovered) and reviewers are not highlighting and disclosing this, they're lying by omission.

I'm not being rude, but don't give Intel a pass here because of any prior fondness you might have held for them. Every benchmark of an Intel CPU you've ever published was made false by their negligence. That's a big, confusing problem for consumers, and they rely on your clarity and diligence to bring it to their attention and correct.

Re:AMD Ryzen 9 3950X Review by swinglock on Friday November 15, 2019 @01:15AM (#21542669)
How much does performance degrade an average year for Intel and AMD? To a consumer a desktop CPU is an investment lasting for 3-8 years. Attempting to factor in predicted degradation of performance results based on history would be interesting and I think the right thing to do.