I'm using Vivado after having previously attempted Quartus and I can't actually say it's any worse. I was able to eventually find my way around it and in some ways it was more intuitive than Quartus.

I see the pile of ideas they're trying to glue together. But it really just does get in the way more than anything else.

Now my process is: Verilator + CMake + CLion + SystemVerilog plugin for CLion (excellent but $$$); then when it runs well in verilator I bring it over to Vivado, fix any warnings it gripes about and try it on hardware.