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Re:Brave launches 1.0 by hinkley on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @02:16PM (#21528249)
GP is on track to become my highest rated comment on HN, which suggests more people agree with me about this than anything else I've said here.

There are some of us that think the distraction economy is making the world a worse place.

OS notifications have a higher participation rate than side-bar ads because 1) nobody has learned to tune them out, and 2) theoretically speaking, these are the things we opted not to filter out, so we are more inclined to peek.

I know people who will stop mid sentence of an interesting conversation with you to figure out why their phone is chirping at them. I'm sure you do, too. It's painful to watch even when it's not you.

My reaction to "it's opt-in" is a little bit like my reaction to "tobacco is opt-in". It's not reassuring, maybe even a little troubling. The best reaction you can expect is, "And?"

Re:Brave launches 1.0 by theli0nheart on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @02:26PM (#21528364)
That your comment was highly upvoted doesn't necessarily mean what you think it does. I often upvote items I disagree with only because they bring up something worthy of discussion. I'm curious how many other HNers do the same.
Re:Brave launches 1.0 by RandomBacon on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @05:38PM (#21530486)
> I often upvote items I disagree with only because they bring up something worthy of discussion. I'm curious how many other HNers do the same.

I do, though it's rare. I've done it for comments a few times, but mostly just for low-karma threads that don't have any comments yet, where I want to see what other people have to say.

Re:Brave launches 1.0 by hinkley on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @02:55PM (#21528716)
Yeah I could have done without that comment. My point was fine before I added it.

Still getting quite a few me too responses.

Re:Brave launches 1.0 by lonelappde on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @05:38PM (#21530485)
On tired old political debates like this, most votes are just cheers for one team or the other.
Re:Brave launches 1.0 by chabes on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @02:35PM (#21528485)
As far as I understand it, using the browser with the default settings is basically like using Chrome with ad blocking (and tracking protection and all of that) already built in.

The only opt in part is allowing ads, which you get paid for viewing.

Re:Brave launches 1.0 by pergadad on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @02:41PM (#21528558)
You don't get paid. You get tokens which you can then provide to creators.
Re:Brave launches 1.0 by tuesdayrain on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @05:42PM (#21530517)
You do get paid, considering you can sell the tokens. I expect the tokens I've earned across all my devices to be worth a nice few hundred USD some day.
Re:Brave launches 1.0 by hinkley on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @02:56PM (#21528732)
It seems like the transaction is more akin to 'rewarded' than 'paid', but I'm not sure that detracts from your point.