16-inch MacBook Pro

Re:16-inch MacBook Pro by pcr910303 on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @11:39AM (#21526065)

> The thing is, you are bound to come across someone who finds a feature useful even if the feature is not useful for the vast majority of the people.

Yeah, and I believe that the fn-keys are the exact symptom. I haven't encountered anyone that uses fn-keys to it's full potential (or at least, more than the Touch Bar can provide).

> The touchbar is a flawed design concept imho. The entire reason I touch type is so that I don't have to look down from my screen.

For simple actions, gaining muscle-memory on Touch Bar virtual buttons are possible. (I myself don't look the Touch Bar when performing simple & repetitive actions like open new Tab, or when pressing the escape key.)

> It's jarring and discontinuous for me to have to look down to use the touchbar.

Well, isn't it something like saying that it's discontinuous to move my hands from the keyboard to the trackpad to operate some GUI app? It's a glance away, and mostly the Touch Bar's actions are predictable & you know when you use it (for example, editing the formatting of some text in the MS Office Suite, or opening the emoji selector, or selecting autocomplete, etc...).

> That's why I personally never liked it.

Yeah, the feature has a variety of tastes. I think I can understand why some people just don't like it, but...

> I think the tactile feedback of a real physical button is essential.

I personally use HapticKey[0] for that.

[0] https://github.com/niw/HapticKey

[ Parent | on HN ]

Re:16-inch MacBook Pro by computerex on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @12:49PM (#21527097)

> Well, isn't it something like saying that it's discontinuous to move my hands from the keyboard to the trackpad to operate some GUI app? It's a glance away, and mostly the Touch Bar's actions are predictable & you know when you use it (for example, editing the formatting of some text in the MS Office Suite, or opening the emoji selector, or selecting autocomplete, etc...).

I use Vimium for browsing, liberally use keyboard shortcuts and use Vim/vim extensions in other IDE's. So my trackpad use is very limited indeed because I find it discontinuous. But I think the trackpad is much better than the touchbar at least because it's huge, you don't have to precisely touch it in any particular spot, unlike the touchbar.

On my personal lenovo laptop I don't use the trackpad at all and use the trackpoint because it's an easier/faster transition than using the touchpad.

[ Parent | on HN ]