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Re:One Google Staffer Fired, Two Others Put on Leave Amid Te... by thephyber on Tuesday November 12, 2019 @09:29PM (#21520677)
> just weird that people demand that their job adheres to whatever weird thing they like.

This was literally a selling point at Google:

> Larry Page and Sergey Brin ... had designed their company's famously open culture to facilitate free thinking. Employees were “obligated to dissent” if they saw something they disagreed with, and they were encouraged to “bring their whole selves” to work rather than check their politics and personal lives at the door.[1]

Lots of companies have figured out that "having a worthwhile mission", in addition to just a paycheck, is one way to distinguish themselves from other potential employers.

[1] https://www.wired.com/story/inside-google-three-years-misery...

Re:One Google Staffer Fired, Two Others Put on Leave Amid Te... by nearbuy on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @01:35AM (#21521636)
> Larry Page and Sergey Brin ... had designed their company's famously open culture to facilitate free thinking. Employees were “obligated to dissent” if they saw something they disagreed with, and they were encouraged to “bring their whole selves” to work rather than check their politics and personal lives at the door.

Seems like James Damore took their advice.

Re:One Google Staffer Fired, Two Others Put on Leave Amid Te... by x220 on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @05:57AM (#21522814)
Yes. Google told people that they have a free thinking culture. That does not mean they have a free thinking culture.
Re:One Google Staffer Fired, Two Others Put on Leave Amid Te... by harambaebae69 on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @11:43AM (#21526115)
There's some quote (I thought it was Peter Thiel but can't find it now) along the lines of "when they mention how important diversity is, ask them how many conservatives there are" at silicon valley tech companies.
Re:One Google Staffer Fired, Two Others Put on Leave Amid Te... by bjourne on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @05:44AM (#21522722)
Yes. What is your point? Must you either be in favor of James Damore and against these Googlers who are trying to organize the workplace or vice versa? Can't everyone get to share their political views and also keep their jobs?
Re:One Google Staffer Fired, Two Others Put on Leave Amid Te... by steev on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @06:22AM (#21522940)
In my experience you can share your views in Google as long as everyone around you shares those views.
Re:One Google Staffer Fired, Two Others Put on Leave Amid Te... by nearbuy on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @07:18AM (#21523231)
I'm not sure what you mean. I wasn't trying to imply any point beyond that James Damore followed Page's and Brin's advice and was fired for it.
Re:One Google Staffer Fired, Two Others Put on Leave Amid Te... by jacques_chester on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @08:02AM (#21523534)
> Can't everyone get to share their political views and also keep their jobs?

I think that "bring your whole self" assumed that the politics everyone would talk about would be politics in the general, diffuse, societal sense. The proper scope of government, the merits of particular policies and candidates, how to solve problems X and Y.

Politics in the sense of judging on who deserves to work at Google, or who is underserving, which directly implies that certain Googlers would be unfit to be there under different regimes, isn't outward-facing. It directly hurts peers. A policy which evicts someone for introducing the notion that some Googlers are unfit to be Googlers will also selectively hurt some folks at Google for speaking their mind.

Google can't have it both ways. I think they made the better choice. I'd rather treat my coworkers compassionately, think of them as humans with complex natures, than to be "right" and "meritocratic" and make them feel threatened and unworthy.

Re:One Google Staffer Fired, Two Others Put on Leave Amid Te... by beerandt on Tuesday November 12, 2019 @10:57PM (#21521060)
It's been years now since "don't be evil" got deleted.
Re:One Google Staffer Fired, Two Others Put on Leave Amid Te... by dmix on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @01:01AM (#21521500)
The cultures of companies change as they grow and as outside cultures change. Especially one closely connected to internet culture, which is way more uncivil and uncompromising against dissenting opinions.
Re:One Google Staffer Fired, Two Others Put on Leave Amid Te... by beerandt on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @11:33AM (#21525994)
I don't have a problem with that. And I didn't even really mean that to be any sort of judgement. It's just a little difficult to convey that, given the phrase involved.