Re:EFF Urges Court to Reconsider Decision That Harms Interne...
by snagglegaggle on Tuesday November 12, 2019 @10:33AM
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I see no reason that whether material is objectionable only applies to pornography. However typically when someone tries to call something not pornography objectionable whatever the case is about is thrown out, eventually, on first amendment concerns.
> Regardless, Ninth Circuit precedent is what it is.
Careful. Bad precedent should not stand just because it is precedent.
Re:EFF Urges Court to Reconsider Decision That Harms Interne...
by rayiner on Tuesday November 12, 2019 @10:40AM
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The statute creates a safe harbor for filtering “material” that is “obscene, lewd, lascivious, filthy, excessively violent, harassing, or otherwise objectionable.” One of the rules of interpreting statutes is that you interpret the scope of catch-all terms in a list consistently with the preceding elements. The preceding elements refer to pornographic or violent content. That would suggest that you shouldn’t interpret “otherwise objectionable” to include things like adware or spyware.
Re:EFF Urges Court to Reconsider Decision That Harms Interne...
by snagglegaggle on Tuesday November 12, 2019 @03:46PM
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4 of the 6 explicit criteria given are not inherently sexual in nature, and only 2 of those 4 are in any way related to violence (but even harassing is not necessarily violent, so it may be 1). Like I said, the only case law that exists relates to pornographic material as it is the most unpopular. That wording was ripped from other anti-obscenity laws that have had a hard time in court but have not yet been entirely struck down.
> (2) Civil liability
> No provider or user of an interactive computer service shall be held liable on account of— > (A) any action voluntarily taken in good faith to restrict access to or availability of material that the provider or user considers to be obscene, lewd, lascivious, filthy, excessively violent, harassing, or otherwise objectionable, whether or not such material is constitutionally protected;
The question is: what is “otherwise objectionable?”
The Ninth Circuit’s Zongo case held that “providers of computer security software can benefit from § 230 immunity, and that such providers have discretion to identify what online content is considered ‘objectionable.’”
Of the bat, the Ninth Circuit is dealing with a self-created problem. Under ordinary principles of statutory construction, “otherwise objectionable” must be interpreted consistently with the preceding elements of the list, which relate to pornography or violence. Maybe Nazi material would qualify, but Congress probably didn’t intend the statute to cover malware or spyware. Had the Ninth Circuit limited “otherwise objectionable” to such content, the antitrust issue would never have arisen, because other filtering tools wouldn’t fall within the scope of “otherwise objectionable” content.
Regardless, Ninth Circuit precedent is what it is. But that still doesn’t support calling this an antitrust exception. As the Court itself says, it’s about the scope of the “discretion” to define what is “otherwise objectionable” content. It’s about whether the safe harbor applies at all, not carving out an exception for the safe harbor when it would otherwise clearly apply.