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Re:Heavy-lift ship lifts entire cruise liner out of the wate... by Animats on Tuesday November 12, 2019 @02:37AM (#21512244)
Usually, heavy-lift ships are used for moving damaged ships, or oil platforms and other non-ship marine loads. Here's the USS Fitzgerald being loaded onto a heavy-lift ship after a collision.[1] The USS Cole on a heavy-lift ship after a bombing.[2] The USS McCain on a heavy lift ship after a collision.[3]

All this is to replace four bearings in the Carnival Vista's azipods, the steerable propulsion units. The ship is only three years old, and if they have to replace all the bearings, there must be some design or manufacturing problem.

This is costing $50 million. The azipods were built by ASEA Brown Boveri.[4] Is this covered under warranty? This looks bad for ABB.

Here's what an azipod looks like during manufacture.[5] Bearing replacement is clearly a major job.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AalbxJtlLBE [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixHPB8rGX9E [3] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abjqBV3cdAo [4] https://new.abb.com/marine/systems-and-solutions/azipod [5] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvHb4XTkC0A

Re:Heavy-lift ship lifts entire cruise liner out of the wate... by cardiffspaceman on Tuesday November 12, 2019 @03:39AM (#21512552)
> Is this covered under warranty?

According to one of the links I cited earlier [1] Royal Caribbean won $65 million from Rolls Royce concerning RR's Mermaid thrusters which are very similar to Azipods, on the Celebrity Lines' 4 Millenium-class ships. And Cunard subsidiary of Carnival won $24 million for Queen Mary II's Mermaids. I think the warranty is more of a contract issue.

In newer builds the bearings may be more accessible.

[1] https://www.travelweekly.com/Cruise-Travel/Insights/Vista-ju...

Re:Heavy-lift ship lifts entire cruise liner out of the wate... by Animats on Tuesday November 12, 2019 @12:57PM (#21516289)
It's a hard problem. The bearings that rotate the azipods are huge, carry the entire propulsive force of the ship as an angled side load on the bearing, are below the water line, and are holding something that goes through the hull. Look at one of those things, think about the stresses, and wince.

Bearings with huge side loads are rarely used, because they wear badly. Ordinary ship screws are on a straight shaft through the stern, with a thrust bearing and seal. Far simpler, and solved a century ago. On the other hand, if you haven't solved the bearing and seal problems of propulsion pods, you shouldn't be selling propulsion pods.

"Ship early, ship often" gives you a terrible reputation in the heavy machinery business. There was once a saying in the railroad equipment business - "Never buy equipment from somebody in a better climate than yours." The good railway equipment manufacturers were in upstate New York, and over-designed everything. Which is what you want when a snowplow has to force the ice off the tracks, and devices in the trackway need to survive that. That's why you see railroad equipment packaged in half inch thick cast iron boxes.[1] That's from General Railway Signal in Rochester, NY.

[1] https://www.trainboard.com/railimages/data/541/sintonswitch....

Re:Heavy-lift ship lifts entire cruise liner out of the wate... by cardiffspaceman on Tuesday November 12, 2019 @01:53PM (#21516910)
I hadn't thought about the load on the strut that the pod hangs from.

When in working order, cruise ships can spin slowly in place so that all the passengers can see some scenery (e.g. the glacier at the head of an Alaskan fjord) from their own balconies. And they drive up to the dock without the aid of tugboats. But pods aren't the enabling technology for this maneuverability, bow thrusters, screws and rudders can do it, too.

I think the fuel efficiency is the tempting advantage of azimuth pods.

Re:Heavy-lift ship lifts entire cruise liner out of the wate... by rwmurrayVT on Tuesday November 12, 2019 @08:00AM (#21513684)
It looks so low to the bottom of the dry dock. It's unusual to look at because in a normal dry-dock you're lifted so high by the blocking. I can look outside and see ddg-67 right now.
Re:Heavy-lift ship lifts entire cruise liner out of the wate... by Iv on Tuesday November 12, 2019 @03:14AM (#21512430)
Very nice videos, thanks!
Re:Heavy-lift ship lifts entire cruise liner out of the wate... by 18monthsin on Tuesday November 12, 2019 @03:09AM (#21512405)
Warranty, that made me laugh.
Re:Heavy-lift ship lifts entire cruise liner out of the wate... by SmellyGeekBoy on Tuesday November 12, 2019 @05:03AM (#21512932)
Why? Most of the manufacturing contracts I've been involved with involve some kind of warranty.
Re:Heavy-lift ship lifts entire cruise liner out of the wate... by 18monthsin on Thursday November 21, 2019 @09:28PM (#21601917)
Because in my head i heard 'and would you like to add the warranty, it's only 2 million for the 3 yr and 1.5 million for the 2 year'