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Re:The FCC Has Fined Robocallers $208M, Collected $6,790 by Diesel555 on Saturday November 09, 2019 @10:44PM (#21496269)
"Are telecom companies not realizing how much they are hurting themselves"

After seeing cable companies fail to get into the internet, I'm convinced companies try to stop progress instead of embracing it. They don't see progress as an opportunity, but rather as a threat. They don't realize how much they are hurting themselves.

I read an interesting article on here about the rise of the cell phone camera, the amount of R&D into it compared to traditional cameras, and how slowly traditional camera manufacturers have progressed. Sure, cell phones have to overcome a smaller sensor... but traditional camera sales have been obliterated.

Re:The FCC Has Fined Robocallers $208M, Collected $6,790 by tooney712 on Sunday November 10, 2019 @12:53AM (#21496632)
The go to example of this will always be Kodak.

Steven Sasson invented the first digital camera (and a device to display it on) in 1975 while working at R&D at Kodak. He had a fully functional DSLR by 1989, complete with memory cards. Kodak never released his work, never manufactured that camera. They kept the patent of the work and sat on it, and when others tried to innovate and create a digital camera, Kodak sued them with that patent and kept suing people right up until the patent ran out in 2007. By 2012, the company was bankrupt.

Innovation, true innovation that really pushes technology forward, is anathema to the average business.

Re:The FCC Has Fined Robocallers $208M, Collected $6,790 by rlayton2 on Sunday November 10, 2019 @06:45AM (#21497598)
A "use it or lose it" clause would be great for patent law.

While I appreciate how hard it would be to implement properly, I don't think that should be an impediment to getting the process started.

Re:The FCC Has Fined Robocallers $208M, Collected $6,790 by falcor84 on Sunday November 10, 2019 @09:45AM (#21498100)
>While I appreciate how hard it would be to implement properly

Isn't that part of what it means to acquire a patent? Trying to get a patent on something that I don't yet know how to actually implement should be denied, right?

Re:The FCC Has Fined Robocallers $208M, Collected $6,790 by salawat on Sunday November 10, 2019 @12:37PM (#21499066)
Nope. It's actually best practice to get one even without an implementation because usually the threat of a lawsuit is enough of a chilling effect to keep the competition guessing.

Of course the risk is that if someone else challenges you on it, and you can't provide the implementation, you can have your patent invalidated.

At least that's my understanding of the tactics of patent warfare.

Re:The FCC Has Fined Robocallers $208M, Collected $6,790 by rasz on Sunday November 10, 2019 @04:26PM (#21500298)
>Kodak never released his work, never manufactured that camera

other than selling $20 million worth of 1991 Kodak DCS 100, and following it with many more advanced models ....

Re:The FCC Has Fined Robocallers $208M, Collected $6,790 by tokai on Sunday November 10, 2019 @06:50PM (#21501005)
Selling just under 1000 refitted nikon cameras over 4 years doesn't seem like pushing digital cameras hard. They even brought the nikon bodies through retail.[0]

If that's not dragging your feet I don't know what is. They could have defined the marked for professional digital cameras. Instead they just proved that a digital nikon would work nicely.

[0]https://www.nikonweb.com/dcs100/

Re:The FCC Has Fined Robocallers $208M, Collected $6,790 by jbottoms on Sunday November 10, 2019 @11:17AM (#21498575)
That is one of several reasons that innovation in the U.S. is mortally wounded.
Re:The FCC Has Fined Robocallers $208M, Collected $6,790 by leereeves on Sunday November 10, 2019 @03:44PM (#21500095)
> Kodak never released his work, never manufactured that camera. They kept the patent of the work and sat on it, and when others tried to innovate and create a digital camera, Kodak sued them with that patent and kept suing people right up until the patent ran out in 2007. By 2012, the company was bankrupt.

I bought a Kodak digital camera in the 90s, and other brands too, so I doubt that version of events.

Re:The FCC Has Fined Robocallers $208M, Collected $6,790 by lowercased on Sunday November 10, 2019 @03:58PM (#21500156)
did you buy a Kodak dslr, or just a digital camera? I'm guessing there's some difference?
Re:The FCC Has Fined Robocallers $208M, Collected $6,790 by leereeves on Sunday November 10, 2019 @04:09PM (#21500225)
You're right there's a difference and it wasn't a DSLR. The comment I responded to wasn't entirely clear that Kodak only blocked the development of a digital DSLR, if that's what was meant.

> when others tried to innovate and create a digital camera, Kodak sued them

Re:The FCC Has Fined Robocallers $208M, Collected $6,790 by apatters on Saturday November 09, 2019 @11:00PM (#21496315)
This is especially true of big companies or companies that only have a few competitors, which is why it's high time to save American capitalism with a round of good old fashioned trust busting.
Re:The FCC Has Fined Robocallers $208M, Collected $6,790 by technotarek on Sunday November 10, 2019 @09:09AM (#21497994)
Somewhat related, can anyone explain why in the world Fox would allow the entire World Series to be sponsored by YouTube Live? They have to be a competitive threat, no?
Re:The FCC Has Fined Robocallers $208M, Collected $6,790 by laGrenouille on Monday November 11, 2019 @02:00AM (#21502774)
I don’t believe Fox is a competitor with YouTube Live; doesn’t YTL include Fox as one of its streaming channels? Particularly with NBC’s Hulu and ABC’s Disney+, they may actually see YTL taking off as a good thing.
Re:The FCC Has Fined Robocallers $208M, Collected $6,790 by tssva on Sunday November 10, 2019 @09:55AM (#21498138)
Fox probably has very little choice. YouTube TV's sponsorship agreement is with MLB. I can't imagine MLB's World Series broadcast contract with Fox gives them much if any say in the matter.