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Re:“Child Abusers Run Rampant as Tech Companies Look the Oth... by Canada on Saturday November 09, 2019 @03:46PM (#21494239)
What a terrible article. The thrust is that it's bad that:

- Facebook leads in reporting, with 45M possible cases, but apparently even that isn't trying hard enough

- Facebook is moving toward E2E for messaging

- Amazon doesn't intrude on customer data

- Dropbox, Microsoft and Google do not sufficiently intrude on their users data

Imagine AWS started scanning your VMs for digital contraband... How many customers would actually put up with that?

Re:“Child Abusers Run Rampant as Tech Companies Look the Oth... by deogeo on Saturday November 09, 2019 @04:16PM (#21494410)
Imagine cars would record and forward to police everything said in them. We must hold Volkswagen responsible for the child abusers driving around rampantly, while they look the other way. We cannot allow the inside of a car to be a "law-free zone". Police is still unable to find out what was said in the van before the 2017 London Bridge attack: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_London_Bridge_attack
Re:“Child Abusers Run Rampant as Tech Companies Look the Oth... by mirimir on Saturday November 09, 2019 @06:06PM (#21495117)
Right. And even if all those companies found everything that goes through their systems, they'd arguably accomplish nothing more than catching the punters. Mostly kids and old men.

Most people who create and distribute child sexual abuse imagery don't likely operate on the open Internet. They're in private forums on Tor onion services. Along with I2P and Freenet.

So this is mostly propaganda to build support for the Panopticon.

Re:“Child Abusers Run Rampant as Tech Companies Look the Oth... by Canada on Saturday November 09, 2019 @06:28PM (#21495259)
Well, apparently they use mainstream services quite a lot, even openly where search engines can index it. I think what goes unsaid here is that Facebook reported a lot of it to the authorities and they don't do much about it anyway.
Re:“Child Abusers Run Rampant as Tech Companies Look the Oth... by mirimir on Saturday November 09, 2019 @07:09PM (#21495446)
I'm not arguing that people don't share and save that stuff on mainstream services. I'm arguing that 99% of them are just looking. And that most of the ones who are actually abusing are much harder to find.

So what the Panopticon will accomplish is saturating the system with punters, with no substantial impact on abuse.

That, and nuking privacy online. Which, I argue, is the real goal.

Re:“Child Abusers Run Rampant as Tech Companies Look the Oth... by Canada on Saturday November 09, 2019 @07:21PM (#21495511)
Yeah I completely agree that spying on us all is the real goal whenever politicians and high level law enforcement officials bring this topic up.

People have been sexually abusing children before we had electricity let alone the internet, so even if there was never another abuse image posted the actual abuse will continue.