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Re:The Big Bitcoin Heist by zepearl on Saturday November 09, 2019 @12:14PM (#21492711)
> In Iceland, it is not a crime to stage a prison break: The law recognizes that inmates, like all human beings, are naturally entitled to freedom, and thus cannot be punished for seeking it.

Funny :)

Re:The Big Bitcoin Heist by danielbln on Saturday November 09, 2019 @12:33PM (#21492818)
The same is true in Germany. You'll probably break a few laws while breaking out of a prison, but the act itself is not punishable and will not yield you more time.
Re:The Big Bitcoin Heist by zepearl on Saturday November 09, 2019 @03:30PM (#21494140)
Damn, you're right (I didn't want to believe you, so I checked) - or at least Wikipedia states the same thing:

> In Deutschland und Österreich beispielsweise ist die Flucht als solche straffrei.

"For example in Germany and Austria the escape itself is exempt from punishment"

Thx

Re:The Big Bitcoin Heist by beerandt on Saturday November 09, 2019 @12:35PM (#21492834)
What's the economic result? Any relative increase in attempts since there's no incentive not to?
Re:The Big Bitcoin Heist by WJW on Saturday November 09, 2019 @12:59PM (#21493013)
The sample size is so low you can't get any meaningful results. And use of violence against a guard or breaking prison materials is still illegal (since it's illegal to use violence against anyone and/or to destroy property). But if the door is left open and you walk out without harming anyone, that in itself is not illegal.
Re:The Big Bitcoin Heist by beerandt on Saturday November 09, 2019 @02:55PM (#21493879)
So how does this work in the case of initial arrest? Or a fugitive thats not necessarily am escapee? There's no incentive to surrender?
Re:The Big Bitcoin Heist by zepearl on Saturday November 09, 2019 @04:53PM (#21494647)
> Or a fugitive thats not necessarily am escapee?

I'd guess that that person, not being at that point of time a "detainee", would get the outcome of the other laws related to "resisting arrest" or something similar (like when police wants to do a check on you and/or your vehicle, etc... and you run off).

Re:The Big Bitcoin Heist by hesk on Saturday November 09, 2019 @01:36PM (#21493321)
This has been legal doctrine in Germany for over a century.
Re:The Big Bitcoin Heist by nloladze on Saturday November 09, 2019 @12:51PM (#21492947)
I read it's three to ten in the US but I saw a show where it's up to fifteen. As for the machines, I know someone who mines on a much smaller scale but still has a lot of security precautions, it's a tough business.
Re:The Big Bitcoin Heist by zepearl on Saturday November 09, 2019 @04:54PM (#21494652)
Sorry, what's "three to ten" and "fifteen"?
Re:The Big Bitcoin Heist by nloladze on Sunday November 10, 2019 @04:24PM (#21500289)
I apologize. Years.
Re:The Big Bitcoin Heist by zepearl on Tuesday November 12, 2019 @07:58PM (#21520071)
Thx!

So if I try to escape from the prison in the US, without harming anybody and without damaging anything I still get additionally 3 to 10 years??

I was surprised to hear that such an attempt was ok in Europe in general, but this goes in my opinion in the exact opposite direction => I can definitely imagine anybody that tries to escape taking extreme measures to try not to get caught to avoid the repercussions.

Re:The Big Bitcoin Heist by nloladze on Saturday November 23, 2019 @04:10AM (#21613218)
You can easily look at up to 15 years. And there's a thing called MMS, mandatory minimum sentencing, which means REGARDLESS of evidence, the Judge's opinion or the facts, if you are convicted guilty of a charge, you MUST receive a minimum sentence and no less, which tend to be very strict. Drug charges, particularly dealing fall under this category.
Re:The Big Bitcoin Heist by mandelbrotwurst on Saturday November 09, 2019 @12:59PM (#21493008)
This seems strangely worded even if true. If they are entitled to said freedom, does that not preclude even building the prison?
Re:The Big Bitcoin Heist by ramphastidae on Saturday November 09, 2019 @01:04PM (#21493065)
Entitled but not guaranteed. You can be punished with jail time for breaking the law, but can’t be further punished for trying to escape.
Re:The Big Bitcoin Heist by code-is-code on Saturday November 09, 2019 @12:33PM (#21492817)
Same in germany
Re:The Big Bitcoin Heist by OnlineGladiator on Saturday November 09, 2019 @12:36PM (#21492837)
And Mexico