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Re:This isn't your father's Microsoft by taneq on Saturday November 09, 2019 @01:33AM (#21490004)
> Crapware pre-installed

The first rule of buying a prebuilt system has always been nuke it from orbit and start from scratch. Sounds like this isn’t changing any time soon.

Re:This isn't your father's Microsoft by tlamponi on Saturday November 09, 2019 @05:32AM (#21490704)
Yeah, but even if I "nuke it from orbit" with a recent Windows 10 ISO I have to trick around to be able to just create a local account (disconnecting network or entering some form invalid three times, dark pattern stuff) and then if I finally get along I get greeted with a start menu full of candy crush and other crap..

Compare that with and Debian installation, quicker, no dark patterns, and no crap. Fedora works too, AFAICR, but Ubuntu has gone already a bit the M$ way, it seems..